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The Rover 800 series is an executive car
Executive car

Executive car is a British English term that refers to a car's size and is used to describe an automobile larger than a large family car. In official use, the term is adopted by EuroNCAP, a European organization founded to test car safety....
 introduced by the Austin Rover Group
Austin Rover Group

The Austin Rover Group was a United Kingdom motor manufacturer. It was formed in 1981 as the mass-market car manufacturing subsidiary of British Leyland ....
 in 1986 and also marketed as the Sterling
Sterling (car)

Sterling was a marque of automobile marketed in the United States by ARCONA, Rover under the name Sterling Motor Cars, a division of the Rover car company of the United Kingdom....
 in the United States
United States

The United States of America is a Federal government constitutional republic comprising U.S. state and a federal district. The country is situated mostly in central North America, where its Contiguous United States and Washington, D.C., the Capital districts and territories, lie between the Pacific Ocean and Atlantic Oceans, Borders of the U...
. Co-developed with Honda
Honda

is a multinational corporation headquartered in Japan.The company manufactures automobiles, motorcycles, trucks, scooter , robots, jet aircrafts and jet engines, all-terrain vehicle, water craft, electrical generators, marine engines, lawn and garden equipment, and aeronautical and other mobile technologies....
, it was a close relative to the Honda Legend
Honda Legend

The Honda Legend is a Full-size car luxury car made by the Japanese automaker Honda. It was originally developed as part of Project XX, a joint venture with the MG Rover Group Group of UK and was a twin of the Rover 800 series....
 and the successor to the Rover SD1
Rover SD1

Rover SD1 is the code name given to a series of large executive cars made by British Leyland and its successor Austin Rover from 1976 until 1986....
.

Rover 800 was designed as a replacement for the Rover SD1
Rover SD1

Rover SD1 is the code name given to a series of large executive cars made by British Leyland and its successor Austin Rover from 1976 until 1986....
. Development of the car began in 1981 as part of a venture with Honda
Honda

is a multinational corporation headquartered in Japan.The company manufactures automobiles, motorcycles, trucks, scooter , robots, jet aircrafts and jet engines, all-terrain vehicle, water craft, electrical generators, marine engines, lawn and garden equipment, and aeronautical and other mobile technologies....
 under the XX codename; the corresponding Honda version was known as the Honda Legend
Honda Legend

The Honda Legend is a Full-size car luxury car made by the Japanese automaker Honda. It was originally developed as part of Project XX, a joint venture with the MG Rover Group Group of UK and was a twin of the Rover 800 series....
, and was codenamed as HX.






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The Rover 800 series is an executive car
Executive car

Executive car is a British English term that refers to a car's size and is used to describe an automobile larger than a large family car. In official use, the term is adopted by EuroNCAP, a European organization founded to test car safety....
 introduced by the Austin Rover Group
Austin Rover Group

The Austin Rover Group was a United Kingdom motor manufacturer. It was formed in 1981 as the mass-market car manufacturing subsidiary of British Leyland ....
 in 1986 and also marketed as the Sterling
Sterling (car)

Sterling was a marque of automobile marketed in the United States by ARCONA, Rover under the name Sterling Motor Cars, a division of the Rover car company of the United Kingdom....
 in the United States
United States

The United States of America is a Federal government constitutional republic comprising U.S. state and a federal district. The country is situated mostly in central North America, where its Contiguous United States and Washington, D.C., the Capital districts and territories, lie between the Pacific Ocean and Atlantic Oceans, Borders of the U...
. Co-developed with Honda
Honda

is a multinational corporation headquartered in Japan.The company manufactures automobiles, motorcycles, trucks, scooter , robots, jet aircrafts and jet engines, all-terrain vehicle, water craft, electrical generators, marine engines, lawn and garden equipment, and aeronautical and other mobile technologies....
, it was a close relative to the Honda Legend
Honda Legend

The Honda Legend is a Full-size car luxury car made by the Japanese automaker Honda. It was originally developed as part of Project XX, a joint venture with the MG Rover Group Group of UK and was a twin of the Rover 800 series....
 and the successor to the Rover SD1
Rover SD1

Rover SD1 is the code name given to a series of large executive cars made by British Leyland and its successor Austin Rover from 1976 until 1986....
.

Development


Partnership with Honda

The Rover 800 was designed as a replacement for the Rover SD1
Rover SD1

Rover SD1 is the code name given to a series of large executive cars made by British Leyland and its successor Austin Rover from 1976 until 1986....
. Development of the car began in 1981 as part of a venture with Honda
Honda

is a multinational corporation headquartered in Japan.The company manufactures automobiles, motorcycles, trucks, scooter , robots, jet aircrafts and jet engines, all-terrain vehicle, water craft, electrical generators, marine engines, lawn and garden equipment, and aeronautical and other mobile technologies....
 under the XX codename; the corresponding Honda version was known as the Honda Legend
Honda Legend

The Honda Legend is a Full-size car luxury car made by the Japanese automaker Honda. It was originally developed as part of Project XX, a joint venture with the MG Rover Group Group of UK and was a twin of the Rover 800 series....
, and was codenamed as HX. The development work was carried out at Rover's Canley plant and Honda's Tochigi development centre. The European market Legend was produced by Austin-Rover alongside the 800 in the former Morris
Morris Motor Company

The Morris Motor Company was a United Kingdom automobile manufacturing company. After the incorporation of the company into larger corporations, the Morris name remained in use as a marque until 1984 when British Leyland's Austin Rover Group decided to concentrate on the more popular Austin Motor Company marque....
 plant in Cowley
Cowley, Oxford

Cowley in Oxford, England, is a residential and industrial area that forms a small conurbation within greater Oxford. It has a population of about 16,500 people....
, Oxfordshire
Oxfordshire

Oxfordshire is a county in the South East England region, bordering on Northamptonshire, Buckinghamshire, Berkshire, Wiltshire, Gloucestershire, and Warwickshire....
. US-market (Acura
Acura

Acura is the luxury vehicle division of Japanese automaker Honda Motor Company. It primarily competes with Buick, Lexus and Infiniti among others in the luxury vehicle segment....
) Legends were built in Japan.

Range

Rover 800 01
The basic versions of the 800 used two 2.0 L 16-valve developments of British Leyland's stalwart O-Series engine, dubbed M-Series. The 820e, with single point injection, and the 820i with multi-point injection, i.e. 4 injectors. The top versions used a Honda designed V6 unit in 2.5 L capacity. Initially, only a saloon body was offered; a liftback
Liftback

A liftback is a car body style in which the cargo space is accessed through a tailgate that extends up to the higher end of the C-pillar and includes the rear window....
 version — referred to as a fastback
Fastback

A fastback is a car body style whose roofline slopes continuously down at the back. The word can also designate the car itself. The style is seen on two-door coup?s as well as four-door sedan s....
 — became available in 1988.

Later, a diesel
Diesel

Diesel or diesel fuel in general is any fuel used in diesel engines. The most common is a specific fractional distillation of petroleum fuel oil, but alternatives that are not derived from petroleum, such as biodiesel, biomass to liquid or gas to liquid diesel, are increasingly being developed and adopted....
 version of the car was launched in 1990 using a 2498 cc engine from Italian
Italy

Italy , officially the Italian Republic , is a country located on the Italian Peninsula in Southern Europe and on the two largest islands in the Mediterranean Sea, Sicily and Sardinia....
 company VM Motori
VM Motori

VM Motori S.p.A. is a diesel engine manufacturing company in Cento, Italy, which is the heart of Emilia-Romagna and also home to Ferrari, Lamborghini, Maserati and Ducati....
, which was related to the slightly smaller engine used in the 2400 SD Turbo model of the Rover SD1, and Range Rover
Range Rover

The Range Rover is a four-wheel drive luxury sport utility vehicle produced by Land Rover in the United Kingdom, owned by the India-based Tata Motors....
 Turbo D.

The Sterling badge was used in Europe
Europe

Europe is, conventionally, one of the world's seven continents. Comprising the westernmost peninsula of Eurasia, Europe is generally divided from Asia to its east by the water divide of the Ural Mountains, the Ural , the Caspian Sea, and by the Caucasus Mountains to the southeast....
 and most global markets to denote the top saloon luxury version and the Vitesse badge used to denote the top fastback sporting version. The Vitesse became available at the same time as the 2675 cc Honda V6. Both of these top of the range models were initially only available in the UK with the V6. In some European markets, in particular Italy, the 2.0 litre petrol was badged as Sterling and later available (in turbo form) as Vitesse to avoid the punishing duties that made engines over 2.0 litres unviable for volume sales.

Towards the end of Mark 1 production the Vitesse had nearly as many "luxury" features as the Sterling (for example, electric seats). There was also a brief run of just over 500 820 Turbo 16v cars using a turbocharged version of the M-Series developed with help from Tickford
Tickford

Tickford is an automobile engineering and testing company with a history of coachbuilding and car tuning, famous for such products as the 140mph Tickford turbocharger Ford Capri....
, leading to this model often being referred to as the "Tickford Turbo". Utilising such enhancements as sodium-filled exhaust valves and Mahle forged pistons the car produced , although there is much speculation about this figure being severely held back by the electronics as not to step on the toes of the V6 engined Vitesse model as well as to preserve the reliability of the gearbox. In reality the engine was capable of 250+hp while still preserving the realiability and drivability.

In the United States
United States

The United States of America is a Federal government constitutional republic comprising U.S. state and a federal district. The country is situated mostly in central North America, where its Contiguous United States and Washington, D.C., the Capital districts and territories, lie between the Pacific Ocean and Atlantic Oceans, Borders of the U...
, the car was known as the Sterling
Sterling (car)

Sterling was a marque of automobile marketed in the United States by ARCONA, Rover under the name Sterling Motor Cars, a division of the Rover car company of the United Kingdom....
, and was only available with the 2.5 litre Honda V6 petrol engine. Initial sales in America were strong, and the design was well received. However, early vehicles were soon found to have been under-developed and quality and reliability problems soon escalated to a crisis. The sales then fell as the reputation of the model deteriorated, especially as soon as J.D. Power
J.D. Power and Associates

J.D. Power and Associates is a global marketing information services firm founded in 1968 by J.D. Power. The firm conducts surveys of customer satisfaction, product quality, and buyer behavior for industries ranging from automobiles to marketing and advertising firms....
 surveys criticised initial quality and reliability publicly. This was especially damaging as at the same time, the same core vehicle, the Acura Legend
Acura Legend

The Acura Legend, sold as the Honda Legend outside the United States, Canada, and parts of People's Republic of China, was a sporty luxury vehicle sold from 1986 to 1995 as both a sedan and a coupe....
 was doing extremely well in America.

Many mechanical and chassis parts for the Sterling 825/827 are still readily available due to the fact that it was largely identical to the much more popular Acura Legend in these areas, save for engine cooling and braking systems. However, electrical, body, and interior parts are quite difficult to locate in the US now.

In Europe especially, the 800 was hampered by Honda's adherence to packaging its own characteristic double-wishbone front suspension. This allowed a low bonnet-line but restricted the total suspension-travel, which in turn could not give the 800 the executive car ride qualities and traction on poorly surfaced roads which were necessary for it to compete. The first 2.5 L engine also lacked low-end torque, which particularly affected its "drivability". The 4-cylinder cars suffered from reliability problems, thanks to the fragile Lucas fuel injection systems which Rover used.

It should be noted that the 2.5 L Honda V6 is a completely different engine from the Rover KV6 Engine
Rover KV6 Engine

The KV6 automotive engine is a techologically-advanced 24 valve, quad cam V6 engine, available in 2.5 litre or 2.0 litre, built by Powertrain Ltd which is a sister company to MG Rover....
 introduced in 1996, although the two share the same nominal 2.5 L capacity and a V6 architecture.

Early build quality of the 800 was reportedly fairly poor, (J.D. Power
J.D. Power and Associates

J.D. Power and Associates is a global marketing information services firm founded in 1968 by J.D. Power. The firm conducts surveys of customer satisfaction, product quality, and buyer behavior for industries ranging from automobiles to marketing and advertising firms....
) with trim, electrics and paintwork problems. The 800 did have a roomy and luxurious interior but this did not save the car from gaining a poor reputation from which it never really recovered. Corrosion problems in early models also marred its reputation.

By 1989, the 2.5 L engine was enlarged to 2.7 L, the expensive Maestro
Austin Maestro

The Austin Maestro is a mid-sized 5-door hatchback car that was produced from 1983 to 1994, initially by the Austin Rover Group subsidiary of British Leyland , and from 1988 onwards by successor organisation Rover Group....
-derived instrumentation had been changed to gauges sourced from a different component-builder (losing the oil pressure gauge and voltmeter in the process) and build quality had improved but cost-cutting had started. However these changes were too late to prevent the US-market version from being withdrawn after poor sales. A budget version of the 800 using an 8-valve (rather than 16) O-Series engine was introduced, but was short-lived.

The original version of the Rover 800 was one of the most popular cars in Britain's full-sized executive car market, which at this stage was effectively split into two strong sectors — mainstream brands such as Ford
Ford Motor Company

The Ford Motor Company is an United States multinational corporation and the world's List of automobile manufacturers#World Motor Vehicle Production by Manufacturer based on worldwide vehicle sales, following Toyota, General Motors, and Volkswagen Group....
 and Vauxhall
Vauxhall Motors

Vauxhall Motors is a UK automobile company. It is a subsidiary of General Motors , and is part of GM Europe. Most current Vauxhall models are right-hand drive derivatives of GM's Opel brand....
, and prestige brands such as BMW
BMW

, is an independent German automotive industry founded in 1916. It also produces BMW Motorrad, is the owner of the MINI brand and is the parent company of Rolls-Royce Motor Cars....
 and Mercedes-Benz
Mercedes-Benz

Mercedes-Benz is a German manufacturer of automobiles, buses, coach es, and trucks. It is currently a division of the parent company, Daimler AG , after previously being owned by Daimler-Benz....
. It was a strong competitor for the likes of the Ford Granada/Scorpio
Ford Granada (Europe)

The Ford Granada was a large executive car manufactured by Ford Europe at both its German factory in K?ln and its British factory in Dagenham from 1972 until 1976 when production switched entirely to Germany....
 and Vauxhall Carlton
Vauxhall Carlton

The Vauxhall Carlton is an executive car that was sold by Vauxhall Motors in the United Kingdom from 1978 to 1994....
.

1992: the R17 major facelift

Rover 800 02
Rover 825sd
In early 1992, the 800 was re-skinned and re-engineered under the R17 codename This saw the re-introduction of the traditional Rover grille and more curvaceous bodywork. The scope of the design change was restricted by the need to retain the core XX structure, including the door structure and skin design.

The redesign was a partial answer to major press and market criticism of the "folded paper" school of design and the quest for better aerodynamics that had led to many cars appearing very similar, especially from the front. The redesign found much favour and as a result the car's sales enjoyed a renaissance, the 800 series becoming Britain's best selling executive car in the early to mid 1990s.

Following concerted efforts to learn from the problems that had hit the early model years, especially under the more extreme United States market and climatic conditions, quality in general had improved dramatically by this stage, but the decision to leave the US market had already been taken.

The 2.0 L T16 replaces the M16 found in pre 1992 cars and comes in NASP and Turbo forms, the 2.0 L turbo was fitted to the "Vitesse" and the later "Vitesse Sport" (1994–96).

Notable differences between the sport and non sport models were:

Vitesse Sport came with 17" six-spoke alloys (non sport was 16" seven-spoke), a power increase from to and revised stiffer suspension to aid handling.

The Rover 800s as fitted with the Honda 2.7 are very reliable if well serviced, however they suffered from noisy tappets, mostly in cases where oil changes were neglected.

Coupé

A two-door ("three-box", booted) coupé version followed later that year. This had been originally developed with the American market in mind but was never sold there, Rover having pulled out of the US market before the coupé's launch. It was, however, sold to other export markets. Eighty percent of the interior and exterior of the 800 coupé was finished by hand.

1996 minor facelift

A facelift in 1996 provided few exterior changes, the most noticeable being the painting of previously black rubbing strips on all models except the coupé and the revision of the suspension system. Grille fins became silver in colour, instead of their former black. Climate control, passive immobilisation and a passenger airbag
Airbag

An airbag is a Automobile safety device. It is an occupant restraint consisting of a flexible envelope designed to inflate rapidly in an automobile collision, to prevent vehicle occupants from striking hard interior objects such as steering wheels....
 became standard, and a 6-disc CD auto-changer was fitted to all models apart from the entry-level ("i") model. Security technology was upgraded with a change from infra red to radio frequency for the remote door key. Wood finishes were expanded, with a coachwork line and "ROVER" on the door cards, accentuating the new, pleated seat finishes and deep pile rugs. Unusual pleated door card leather and fabric finishes capped off a comfortable interior, much of which was hand-made with what Rover called "the craftsman's touch".

Post 1996 Vitesses were all "Sport" specification so the sport badge was dropped, also from 1996 the 2.0L T16 engines used wasted spark ignition instead of distributor. Non-sport Vitesse models have approx , whilst the sport has .

Although the 800 had fallen behind the opposition considerably (few mechanical changes were made, apart from the introduction of the Rover KV6 Engine
Rover KV6 Engine

The KV6 automotive engine is a techologically-advanced 24 valve, quad cam V6 engine, available in 2.5 litre or 2.0 litre, built by Powertrain Ltd which is a sister company to MG Rover....
 which replaced the Honda 2.7 V6 in 1996), it was a steady seller until 1999, when it was replaced by the Rover 75
Rover 75

The Rover 75 is an executive car produced initially by the Rover Group at Cowley, Oxford, Oxfordshire, United Kingdom, and later by MG Rover Group at their Longbridge site in Birmingham, UK....
.

The Rover KV6 engine in the 800 series was hampered by reliability issues and head gasket failures. Rover at the time, with no understanding of the problems simply replaced the engines. In many cases repair would not have been an option due to liner problems. The modified version of the KV6 fitted into the 75 is not an easy swap.

The KV6 engine was in most cases mated to a JATCO gearbox which also in some cases suffered from reliability issues. This was sometimes due to incorrect gearbox fluid changes.

The Rover 820 Vitesse in most guises suffered from problems with gearbox bearings because of the large amount of power from the 2-litre turbo engine. The bearings can be replaced with more durable steel caged bearings.

Motorsport

On 6 June 1990 Tony Pond completed the first ever lap of the famous TT motorcycle course on the Isle Of Man at an average of over in a car — a Rover 827 Vitesse, standard apart from safety features and racing tyres.

Users

The 800 was a keystone of the British government's car fleet throughout its life, following a tradition of using British-made Rover and Jaguar models. The car was also used by many British police forces
Policing in the United Kingdom

Law enforcement in the United Kingdom is organised separately in Scotland, Northern Ireland and England & Wales , and arranged in geographical police areas matched to the boundaries of one or more local government areas in the United Kingdom....
.

Famous owners include Neil Hamilton
Neil Hamilton (politician)

Mostyn Neil Hamilton is a former barrister, teacher and Conservative Party Member of Parliament in the United Kingdom. Since losing his seat in 1997, Hamilton and his wife Christine Hamilton have become minor media celebrities....
, Peter Mandelson
Peter Mandelson

Peter Benjamin Mandelson, Baron Mandelson, Privy Council of the United Kingdom is a British Labour Party politician who is the current Secretary of State for Business, Enterprise and Regulatory Reform, appointed on 3 October 2008....
, Clement Freud
Clement Freud

Sir Clement Raphael Freud is an Great Britain writer, broadcaster and former politician.Freud was born in Berlin, the son of Jewish parents Ernst Ludwig Freud, an architect, and Lucie n?e Brasch....
, Max Bygraves
Max Bygraves

Max Bygraves Officer of the Order of the British Empire is an English people singer-songwriter. He appeared on his own television shows, sometimes performing comedy sketches between songs....
 and Michael Parkinson
Michael Parkinson

Sir Michael Parkinson, Order of the British Empire is an English people broadcaster and journalist. He presented his interview programme, Parkinson , from 1971 to 1982 and from 1998 to 2007....
. Tony Blair
Tony Blair

Anthony Charles Lynton "Tony" Blair is a British politician, who served as Prime Minister of the United Kingdom from 2 May 1997 to 27 June 2007....
 owned an early 800 in the 1980s, and the vice-chancellor of Middlesex University
Middlesex University

Middlesex University is a university in north London, England, located in the Historic counties of England of Middlesex ....
 had two — one for personal use and one for official duties.

Production figures


Model designations

Unlike many other manufacturers who used numerical model naming systems, Rover never settled on a permanent standard for the majority of their cars. However, for the following designations are an approximate guide:

  • 820 – 4-cylinder 8-valve carburetted models (Rover O8)
  • 820e – 4-cylinder 16-valve single point injected models (Rover M16e)
  • 820i – 4-cylinder 16-valve multi point injected models (Rover M16i) Came in naturally aspirated form and turbocharged (Turbocharged model fitted to later Vitesse)
  • 825i – pre-1988 6-cylinder models (Honda)
  • 827i – post-1988 6-cylinder and US models (Honda C27)
  • Sterling – for most markets (except North America); luxury flagship model
  • Vitesse – for most markets; sports flagship model


Following the 1992 R17 facelift, the convention was simplified to:

  • 820i/Si/SLi/sterling – 4-cylinder 16-valve multi point injected models (Rover T16) Came in naturally aspirated form and turbocharged (Turbocharged model fitted to Vitesse)
  • 825D/SD – 4-cylinder diesel models (VM Motori 425)
  • 825i/Si/SLi/sterling – 6-cylinder models (Rover KV6)
  • 827i/Si/SLi/sterling – 6-cylinder models (Honda C27a)
  • Sterling – for most markets (except North America); luxury flagship model
  • Vitesse – for most markets; sports flagship model


In 1996, the engine size designations were dropped, and the model badges simply read "800".

External links

  • — Currently the most active Rover 800 owners community with extensive galleries, technical help and data.
  • — Rover 800 and related models development story
  • — with a large section on the diesel version of the car, which contains otherwise difficult to find information including repair tips.