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Milanese (milanes, milanées, meneghin, meneghìn) is the central variety
Variety (linguistics)

In sociolinguistics, a variety, also called a lect, is a language or dialect considered as a variety or development of another language or dialect....
 of Western Lombard language spoken in the city of Milan
Milan

Milan is the second largest city of Italy, located in the plains of Lombardy. It is the capital in the Province of Milan, as well as the Regions of Italy capital of Lombardy....
 and in its province.

In Italian-speaking contexts, Milanese (like most of the other non-Italian language varietes spoken within the borders of the Italian Republic) is often generically called a "dialect
Dialect

A dialect is a variety of a language that is characteristic of a particular group of the language's speakers. The term is applied most often to regional speech patterns, but a dialect may also be defined by other factors, such as social class....
". This is often incorrectly understood as to mean a dialect of Italian, which actually is not the case.






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Milanese (milanes, milanées, meneghin, meneghìn) is the central variety
Variety (linguistics)

In sociolinguistics, a variety, also called a lect, is a language or dialect considered as a variety or development of another language or dialect....
 of Western Lombard language spoken in the city of Milan
Milan

Milan is the second largest city of Italy, located in the plains of Lombardy. It is the capital in the Province of Milan, as well as the Regions of Italy capital of Lombardy....
 and in its province.

In Italian-speaking contexts, Milanese (like most of the other non-Italian language varietes spoken within the borders of the Italian Republic) is often generically called a "dialect
Dialect

A dialect is a variety of a language that is characteristic of a particular group of the language's speakers. The term is applied most often to regional speech patterns, but a dialect may also be defined by other factors, such as social class....
". This is often incorrectly understood as to mean a dialect of Italian, which actually is not the case. Milanese and Italian
Italian language

Italian is a Romance languages spoken by about 63 million people as a first language, primarily in Italy. In Switzerland, Italian is one of four Linguistic geography of Switzerlands....
 are different languages and are not mutually intelligible. Milanese is a particular (and prestigious) Western Lombard
Western Lombard

Western Lombard is a Romance language spoken in Italy, in the Lombardy provinces Province of Milan, Province of Monza and Brianza, Province of Varese, Province of Como, Province of Lecco, Province of Sondrio, a little part Province of Cremona , Province of Lodi and Province of Pavia, and the Piedmont provinces Province of Novara, Province of...
 variety and is intelligible to speakers of other neighbouring Western Lombard
Western Lombard

Western Lombard is a Romance language spoken in Italy, in the Lombardy provinces Province of Milan, Province of Monza and Brianza, Province of Varese, Province of Como, Province of Lecco, Province of Sondrio, a little part Province of Cremona , Province of Lodi and Province of Pavia, and the Piedmont provinces Province of Novara, Province of...
 varieties. It should not be confused with Milanese
Milan

Milan is the second largest city of Italy, located in the plains of Lombardy. It is the capital in the Province of Milan, as well as the Regions of Italy capital of Lombardy....
 dialect of Italian language
Italian language

Italian is a Romance languages spoken by about 63 million people as a first language, primarily in Italy. In Switzerland, Italian is one of four Linguistic geography of Switzerlands....
. It should also not be confused with the entire Western Lombard
Western Lombard

Western Lombard is a Romance language spoken in Italy, in the Lombardy provinces Province of Milan, Province of Monza and Brianza, Province of Varese, Province of Como, Province of Lecco, Province of Sondrio, a little part Province of Cremona , Province of Lodi and Province of Pavia, and the Piedmont provinces Province of Novara, Province of...
 language, sometimes referred to as "Milanese".

Like all other dialects of Western Lombard
Western Lombard

Western Lombard is a Romance language spoken in Italy, in the Lombardy provinces Province of Milan, Province of Monza and Brianza, Province of Varese, Province of Como, Province of Lecco, Province of Sondrio, a little part Province of Cremona , Province of Lodi and Province of Pavia, and the Piedmont provinces Province of Novara, Province of...
, Milanese is a Western Romance language related to French
French language

French is a Romance language spoken around the world by around 80 million people as first language, by 190 million as second language, and by about another 200 million people as an acquired tongue, with significant speakers in 54 countries....
, Romansh and Italian
Italian language

Italian is a Romance languages spoken by about 63 million people as a first language, primarily in Italy. In Switzerland, Italian is one of four Linguistic geography of Switzerlands....
.

However, the use of Milanese is mostly limited to familiar terms and sentences, and is rare amongst Milan inhabitants.

Various dictionaries, a few grammar books, an extensive literature and a recent translation of the Gospels are available.

Orthography


Partly because of the unofficial status of Milanese, several different orthographic conventions have developed.

The oldest still in use, and probably the most widely used, is the convention adopted by the Milanese writer Carlo Porta
Carlo Porta

Carlo Porta was an Italian poet, the most famous writer in Milanese ....
. Typical of this system is the trigraph oeu for the vowels /ø/ and /œ/. See: Classical Milanese orthography
Classical Milanese orthography

The classical Milanese orthography is the orthography used for the Western Lombard language, in particular for Milanese dialect, from the major poets and writers of Insubric literature, such as Carlo Porta, Carlo Maria Maggi, Delio Tessa etc....
.

More recent conventions often try to
  • simplify the rules (which are sometimes not very immediate in the Porta system)
  • make correct reading of Milanese easier for native Italian speakers
  • reduce the gap between the written forms of Milanese and of other Lombard dialects


A lot of the alternative systems use ü and ö instead of u and oeu, in order to avoid confusion between Milanese and Italian vowels. They also generally reduce the number of accents involved, often removing ^.

A comparison with Italian


There are few differences between standard Italian and Milanese syntax
Syntax

In linguistics, syntax is the study of the principles and rules for constructing Sentence s in natural languages. In addition to referring to the discipline, the term syntax is also used to refer directly to the rules and principles that govern the sentence structure of any individual language, as in "the Irish syntax"....
es that have to be considered. The comparison is made quite natural by the fact that Milanese speakers are usually also speakers of Italian.

  • More vowel
    Vowel

    In phonetics, a vowel is a sound in spoken language, such as English ah! or oh! , pronounced with an open vocal tract so that there is no build-up of air pressure at any point above the glottis....
    s are found in Milanese than there are in Italian. In particular, Milanese adds /ø/, /y/ and others; moreover, vowel length
    Vowel length

    In linguistics, vowel length is the perceived length of a vowel sound. Often the chroneme, or the "longness", acts like a consonant, and may etymologically be one such as in Australian English....
     plays a role in Milanese.
  • While almost every Italian word of more than one syllable
    Syllable

    A syllable is a unit of organization for a sequence of Speech communication sounds. For example, the word water is composed of two syllables: wa and ter....
     ends in a vowel, consonant endings are extremely common in Milanese. A consequence is that many words that are paroxytone
    Paroxytone

    Paroxytone is a linguistics term for a word with stress on the penultimate syllable, that is, the syllable before the last syllable, e.g, the English language word canasta....
     in Italian become oxytone
    Oxytone

    An oxytone is a word whose last syllable is stressed, such as the English language words correct and reward. A paroxytone is stressed on the penultimate syllable. A proparoxytone is stressed on the antepenultimate syllable....
     in Milanese. A classical example is the infinitive of the verbs: in Italian it's chiamare (with the accent on the second "a"), meaning to call; in Milanese it's ciamà.
  • While most Italian subject pronoun
    Pronoun

    In linguistics and grammar, a pronoun is a pro-form that substitutes for a noun with or without a Determiner , such as Wiktionary:you and Wiktionary:they in English language....
    s derive directly from their Latin
    Latin

    Latin is an Italic language, historically spoken in Latium and Ancient Rome. Through the Military history of the Roman Empire, Latin spread throughout the Mediterranean and a large part of Europe....
     counterparts, subject pronouns in Milanese derive from Latin dative pronouns. This makes Milanese subject pronouns resemble Italian object/dative pronouns: mi (Italian mi), ti (Italian ti), lu (Italian lui), lee (Italian lei), numm (Italian noi), viálter (Italian voi), lór (Italian loro).
  • Subject pronouns are doubled in the 2nd and 3rd persons singular. Singular "you are" (Italian tu sei) becomes ti te seet in Milanese; here the first ti is the actual subject pronoun (which is optional), while the second te, normally a dative pronoun, is used to reinforce the subject and is compulsory (it's interesting to mention that the -t suffix of the 2nd person of verbs also derives from Latin "te", for a notable total of three subject pronouns per verb).
  • The negation
    Negation

    In logic and mathematics, negation or not is an operation on logical values, for example, the logical value of a proposition, that sends true to false and false to true....
     is postponed after the verb
    Verb

    In syntax, a verb is a word that usually denotes an action , an occurrence , or a state of being . Depending on the language, a verb may vary in form according to many factors, possibly including its grammatical tense, grammatical aspect, grammatical mood and grammatical voice....
    . This means that where Italian has non sei for "you are not", Milanese allows either of ti te seet no or ti te seet minga. Minga is an alternative negational adverb
    Adverb

    An adverb is a part of speech. It is any word that modifies any other part of language: verbs, adjectives , clauses, sentence s and other adverbs, except for nouns; modifiers of nouns are primarily determiners and adjectives....
     (probably derived from the Latin word mica, meaning "crumb"), various forms of which are common in other Italian dialects and even Italian itself, where non mica is common slang for reinforcing negations. Also consider French
    French language

    French is a Romance language spoken around the world by around 80 million people as first language, by 190 million as second language, and by about another 200 million people as an acquired tongue, with significant speakers in 54 countries....
     pas and Tuscan
    Tuscan dialect

    The Tuscan dialect or the Tuscan language is an Italian dialects spoken in Tuscany, Italy. In many respects it wandered less than other Romance dialects from the Latin language and evolved linearly and homogeneously, without major influences from other foreign languages....
     punto for examples of negations made by using words that all designate "something small" generically. Statistically, minga and no are about equally as common in Milanese, and they are usually interchangeable, although a Milanese speaker will sometimes find that one "sounds better" in a sentence than the other. A little rule for using minga rather than no may be that minga can be used to deny the presence of countable things and no as a simple negation. Example: mi vegni no, meaning I won't come: mi vegni minga it's a bit stronger negation, meaning I really don't want to come, and I won't. Ghe n'ho minga, meaning I have none (no money) means I'm poor: ghe n'ho no should mean a temporary lack (I've no money with me, sorry).


Sample texts


In the word calson /kal's??/ 'trousers', phonetically speaking, you can see the adesinential plural, the use of u and not of o, the nazalization and lengthening of u, the transformation of z into s, the not-mutation of a in front of l.

From the Bible
Bible

The Bible is the central religious text of Judaism and Christianity. The exact Books of the Bible is dependent on the religious traditions of specific denominations....
, Luke 2, 1-7
(for an English version see http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=luke+2)

You can to a rendition of this text as recorded by an Italian native speaker from Milan (compare to the same text in Italian).

Original orthography

Very close to the traditional orthography.

2:1 In chi dì là, on decrett de Céser Augùst l'ordinava che se fasess on censiment de tutta la terra. 2 Sto primm censiment l'è staa faa quand Quirini l'era governador de la Siria. 3 Tucc andaven a fass registrà, ciaschedun in la soa città. 4 Anca Giusepp, che l'era de la cà e de la famiglia de David, da la città de Nazareth e da la Galilea l'è andaa sù in Giudea a la città de David, ciamada Betlemm, 5 per fass registrà insèma a Maria, soa sposa, che l'era incinta. 6 Ben, pròppi intanta che se trovaven in quell sit, s'hinn compii per lee i dì de partorì. 7 L'ha mettuu al mond el sò primm, l'ha faa sù in di fass e l'ha miss giò in d'ona gruppia perchè gh'era minga de post per lor in la locanda. (Circolo Filologico Milanese, I Quatter Vangeli de Mattee, March, Luca e Gioann in dialett milanes, Milan 1995)

Alternative orthography

The same text in an alternative orthography, which could be used to render all Lombard varieties. Long vowels (both phonologically and phonetically long) are written double, word-internal consonants are never doubled (in accordance with pronunciation), and final devoicing of obstruents is rendered orthographically.

2:1 In chi dí lá, un decrètt de Céser August l'urdinava che se fasèss un censiméent de tüta la tèra. 2 Stu primm censiméent l'è staa faa quaant Quirini l'éra guvernaduur de la Siria. 3 Tücc andaven a fass registrá, ciaschedün in la súa citá. 4 Anca Giüsèpp, che l'éra de la cá e de la famíglia de Davit, da la citá de Názareth e da la Galilèa l'è andaa sü in Giüdèa a la citá de Davit, ciamada Betlèmm, 5 per fass registrá insèma a María, súa spusa, che l'éra incinta. 6 Bén, pròpi intanta che se truvaven in quèll siit, s'inn cumpii per lée i dí de parturí. 7 L'a mettüü al muunt el sò primm, l'a faa sü in di fass e l'a miss giò in d'una grüppia perchè gh'éra minga de pòst per luur in la lucanda.

See also

  • Carlo Porta
    Carlo Porta

    Carlo Porta was an Italian poet, the most famous writer in Milanese ....
  • Western Lombard language


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