South Coast derby
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The South Coast Derby, or Hampshire Derby, are terms used to describe football matches played between Portsmouth Football Club
and Southampton Football Club
.
The two clubs are the largest on the southern coast of England
, and lie only 17 miles apart. Because the two clubs have often been in different leagues, they seldom play each other as compared to the North London derby
and North West derby which have been contested over a hundred times. However, because of Southampton's promotion to The Championship at the end of the 2010–11 season, the derby will be contested at least twice in the 2011–12 season.
Portsmouth are statistically the more successful of the two clubs with two old Division 1 (now the Premiership) titles being champions of England in 1948–49 and 1949–50 and two FA Cup
s compared to Southampton's solitary FA Cup success in 1976; despite this, Southampton have won more competitive matches between the two teams, and have been more regularly in a higher league than Portsmouth, including their 27 consecutive years in the top flight of English football.
in 1894. After they won the Southern League title in 1896–97, the club became a limited company and changed their name to Southampton F.C. Portsmouth was founded in April 1898 and joined the Southern League
in 1899
.
The first match between the two clubs came in a friendly at Portsmouth's Fratton Park
ground on 6 September 1899. The match was won "on their merits" 2–0 by Portsmouth, with goals from Dan Cunliffe
(formerly with Liverpool
) and Harold Clarke (formerly with Everton
).
Southampton and Portsmouth first played each other in the Southern League
in April 1900, with Portsmouth winning 2–0 twice in three days. The teams met regularly in the Southern League, and in the early years of the 20th century were rivals for the league title, with Southampton taking the title in 1901, 1903 and 1904 (having also been champions in three consecutive seasons from 1896–97 to 1898–99, before Portsmouth were formed) and Portsmouth taking the title in 1902 (and again in 1920).
The first of four South Coast derbies in the FA Cup
took place on 13 January 1906, when Southampton beat Portsmouth 5–1. For the 1920-21 season
, both teams were admitted to the Football League
(together with the majority of the Southern League First Division sides). The first Football League game between the two clubs was on 11 September 1920, with Southampton winning 2-0. After two seasons in the Third Division
, Saints were promoted as champions in 1922. Pompey joined them in the Second Division in 1924 and were promoted to the First Division
in 1927. Up to this time the teams had met ten times in the Football League, with Saints winning four, Pompey three and three draws.
From 1927 until 1960 Portsmouth then enjoyed a much-superior league position to their neighbours, winning the FA Cup in 1939 and back-to-back League Titles in 1948–49 and 1949–50, until 1960, when Southampton gained promotion back to the Second Division
, Portsmouth having been relegated from the First Division the previous season. From the 1960s onwards, Southampton found themselves in the ascendancy, being in a superior division nearly every season while defeating their rivals whenever the two sides met in cup clashes.
With Southampton being in a higher division for most of the period from the 1960s through to the early 2000s, the two clubs rarely met. Events such as the death of Portsmouth goalkeeper Aaron Flahavan
, a Southampton-born footballer whose brother Darryl
had played for Southampton, occasionally brought the fans together. However, events of recent years have altered this markedly.
Southampton dominated the South Coast derby games in the post-war era, with 14 wins against Portsmouth's 4. Portsmouth's promotion to the Premiership
in 2003 evened matters and reignited the clubs' rivalry - the first time the two teams had met in regular league competition since the 1987–88 First Division season. Southampton held the upper-hand, winning two of the three matches played between the two sides in the 2003–04 season.
The rivalry was galvanised with the appointment of Harry Redknapp
as Southampton manager in December 2004, just days after he had resigned as manager of Portsmouth, and less than a month after the Saints had beaten Portsmouth at St Mary's Stadium
. The following month, the Saints were drawn against and defeated their rivals in a fiery FA Cup
match, with former Portsmouth striker Peter Crouch
(who would go on to rejoin Portsmouth in 2008) scoring the decisive penalty in the last minute of the match.
However, Portsmouth struck back in the next (and most recent) league encounter between the rivals, with Southampton losing 4–1 at Fratton Park
in Redknapp's only return to the ground with the club. Southampton were subsequently relegated from the Premiership on the final day of the 2004-05 season, ending their 27 year run in the top flight of English Football. Southampton were again relegated in April 2009, this time from the Championship to League One, although Portsmouth were in turn relegated to the Championship for the 2010–11 season after having been deducted nine points as a penalty for entering administration
.
(Southampton) and Milan Mandaric
(Portsmouth), publicly criticised one another on a number of occasions, with Lowe calling for an inquest into irregular betting patterns in the run-up to Redknapp's re-appointment. Mandaric had even sent a boxed duck as a Christmas "gift" to Lowe (as Lowe had been on a hunting trip when the "ordeal" began), but the gesture only furthered the animosity between the two.
at St Mary's Stadium
on 13 February 2010, when Portsmouth (then a Premier League club) won their first FA Cup encounter between the two teams. In 2011, Portsmouth finished 16th in The Championship
whilst Southampton were promoted to the Championship from League One, meaning the 2011–12 season will see the two sides meet in the same division for the first time since 2005.
Southampton supporters have taken to referring to their local rivals as "Skate
s". This is a derisive alternative to "matelot" to describe naval sailors, Portsmouth being the home of the Royal Navy
. This term is in fact originally a dismissive one for sailors, possibly originating in Portsmouth, which most Southampton fans have adopted. It was made popular as an abusive term towards Portsmouth fans after a Southampton fanzine asked readers to help search for the term most likely to cause offence to them.
Portsmouth – 62
Southampton – 56
Drawn – 19
Portsmo>th vs Southampton
Pompey will host Saints at Fratton Park on 18 December 2011; Saints will host Pompey on 7 April 2012.
. Although Southampton Saints L.F.C.
has the better history, with their record 9 FA Women's Cup
s won and their once-star player Sue Lopez
having made it all the way to the English Football Hall of Fame
, most of their achievements came before the creation of the actual Women's Premiership
. Portsmouth L.F.C.
is a relative newcomer to the women's game by contrast.
Both teams played in the Southern Championship
in the 2006–07 season. Portsmouth was a strong contender for promotion (they finished 3rd), while Southampton was relegated to the Regional Combinations. Interestingly, the current Portsmouth manager, Vanessa Raynbird, played in and later managed Southampton as well.
Portsmouth F.C.
Portsmouth Football Club is an English football club based in the city of Portsmouth. The club is nicknamed Pompey. Portsmouth's home matches have been played at Fratton Park since the club's formation in 1898. The team currently play in the Football League Championship after being relegated from...
and Southampton Football Club
Southampton F.C.
Southampton Football Club is an English football team, nicknamed The Saints, based in the city of Southampton, Hampshire. The club gained promotion to the Championship from League One in the 2010–2011 season after being relegated in 2009. Their home ground is the St Mary's Stadium, where the club...
.
The two clubs are the largest on the southern coast of England
England
England is a country that is part of the United Kingdom. It shares land borders with Scotland to the north and Wales to the west; the Irish Sea is to the north west, the Celtic Sea to the south west, with the North Sea to the east and the English Channel to the south separating it from continental...
, and lie only 17 miles apart. Because the two clubs have often been in different leagues, they seldom play each other as compared to the North London derby
North London derby
The North London derby is the name of the football local derby between the two major teams in North London – Arsenal and Tottenham Hotspur.-History:...
and North West derby which have been contested over a hundred times. However, because of Southampton's promotion to The Championship at the end of the 2010–11 season, the derby will be contested at least twice in the 2011–12 season.
Portsmouth are statistically the more successful of the two clubs with two old Division 1 (now the Premiership) titles being champions of England in 1948–49 and 1949–50 and two FA Cup
FA Cup
The Football Association Challenge Cup, commonly known as the FA Cup, is a knockout cup competition in English football and is the oldest association football competition in the world. The "FA Cup" is run by and named after The Football Association and usually refers to the English men's...
s compared to Southampton's solitary FA Cup success in 1976; despite this, Southampton have won more competitive matches between the two teams, and have been more regularly in a higher league than Portsmouth, including their 27 consecutive years in the top flight of English football.
Changing fortunes
Southampton were originally formed in 1885 as St. Mary's Young Men's Association F.C., before adopting the name Southampton St. Mary'swhen the club joined the Southern LeagueSouthern Football League
The Southern League is an English football competition featuring semi-professional and amateur clubs from the South West, South Central and Midlands of England and South Wales...
in 1894. After they won the Southern League title in 1896–97, the club became a limited company and changed their name to Southampton F.C. Portsmouth was founded in April 1898 and joined the Southern League
Southern Football League
The Southern League is an English football competition featuring semi-professional and amateur clubs from the South West, South Central and Midlands of England and South Wales...
in 1899
1899 in football (soccer)
The following are the association football events of the year 1899 throughout the world.-Events:*Olympique de Marseille is founded, club from France city of Marseille*January 8: FC Freiburg are champions of south Germany....
.
The first match between the two clubs came in a friendly at Portsmouth's Fratton Park
Fratton Park
Fratton Park is a football stadium in the English city-port of Portsmouth. It has been the home of professional club Portsmouth F.C. since its construction in 1898.-Description:...
ground on 6 September 1899. The match was won "on their merits" 2–0 by Portsmouth, with goals from Dan Cunliffe
Dan Cunliffe
Daniel "Dan" Cunliffe was an English footballer who had a rather nomadic career in which he played as an inside forward for several clubs, including Liverpool as well as making one appearance for England in 1900.-Career:Cunliffe was born in Bolton and played for several Lancashire clubs, including...
(formerly with Liverpool
Liverpool F.C.
Liverpool Football Club is an English Premier League football club based in Liverpool, Merseyside. Liverpool has won eighteen League titles, second most in English football, seven FA Cups and a record seven League Cups...
) and Harold Clarke (formerly with Everton
Everton F.C.
Everton Football Club are an English professional association football club from the city of Liverpool. The club competes in the Premier League, the highest level of English football...
).
Southampton and Portsmouth first played each other in the Southern League
Southern Football League
The Southern League is an English football competition featuring semi-professional and amateur clubs from the South West, South Central and Midlands of England and South Wales...
in April 1900, with Portsmouth winning 2–0 twice in three days. The teams met regularly in the Southern League, and in the early years of the 20th century were rivals for the league title, with Southampton taking the title in 1901, 1903 and 1904 (having also been champions in three consecutive seasons from 1896–97 to 1898–99, before Portsmouth were formed) and Portsmouth taking the title in 1902 (and again in 1920).
The first of four South Coast derbies in the FA Cup
FA Cup
The Football Association Challenge Cup, commonly known as the FA Cup, is a knockout cup competition in English football and is the oldest association football competition in the world. The "FA Cup" is run by and named after The Football Association and usually refers to the English men's...
took place on 13 January 1906, when Southampton beat Portsmouth 5–1. For the 1920-21 season
1920-21 in English football
The 1920–21 season was the 46th season of competitive football in England.-Overview:The Football League Third Division is introduced, expanding the League's operational radius south of Birmingham...
, both teams were admitted to the Football League
The Football League
The Football League, also known as the npower Football League for sponsorship reasons, is a league competition featuring professional association football clubs from England and Wales. Founded in 1888, it is the oldest such competition in world football...
(together with the majority of the Southern League First Division sides). The first Football League game between the two clubs was on 11 September 1920, with Southampton winning 2-0. After two seasons in the Third Division
Football League Third Division
The Football League Third Division was the 3 tier of English Football from 1920 until 1992 when after the formation of the Football Association Premier League saw the league renamed The Football League Division Two...
, Saints were promoted as champions in 1922. Pompey joined them in the Second Division in 1924 and were promoted to the First Division
Football League First Division
The First Division was a division of The Football League between 1888 and 2004 and the highest division in English football until the creation of the Premier League in 1992. The secondary tier in English football has since become known as the Championship....
in 1927. Up to this time the teams had met ten times in the Football League, with Saints winning four, Pompey three and three draws.
From 1927 until 1960 Portsmouth then enjoyed a much-superior league position to their neighbours, winning the FA Cup in 1939 and back-to-back League Titles in 1948–49 and 1949–50, until 1960, when Southampton gained promotion back to the Second Division
Football League Second Division
From 1892 until 1992, the Football League Second Division was the second highest division overall in English football.This ended with the creation of the FA Premier League, prior to the start of the 1992–93 season, which caused an administrative split between The Football League and the teams...
, Portsmouth having been relegated from the First Division the previous season. From the 1960s onwards, Southampton found themselves in the ascendancy, being in a superior division nearly every season while defeating their rivals whenever the two sides met in cup clashes.
With Southampton being in a higher division for most of the period from the 1960s through to the early 2000s, the two clubs rarely met. Events such as the death of Portsmouth goalkeeper Aaron Flahavan
Aaron Flahavan
Aaron Adam Flahavan was an English football goalkeeper who played for Portsmouth.- Life and career :Flahavan played for the Southampton youth team before turning professional with Portsmouth at age 18 in 1994...
, a Southampton-born footballer whose brother Darryl
Darryl Flahavan
Darryl James Flahavan [fla-haa-van] is an English footballer who plays as a goalkeeper for Bournemouth. He most recently played for Portsmouth...
had played for Southampton, occasionally brought the fans together. However, events of recent years have altered this markedly.
Southampton dominated the South Coast derby games in the post-war era, with 14 wins against Portsmouth's 4. Portsmouth's promotion to the Premiership
FA Premier League
The Premier League is an English professional league for association football clubs. At the top of the English football league system, it is the country's primary football competition. Contested by 20 clubs, it operates on a system of promotion and relegation with The Football League. The Premier...
in 2003 evened matters and reignited the clubs' rivalry - the first time the two teams had met in regular league competition since the 1987–88 First Division season. Southampton held the upper-hand, winning two of the three matches played between the two sides in the 2003–04 season.
The rivalry was galvanised with the appointment of Harry Redknapp
Harry Redknapp
Henry James "Harry" Redknapp is a former English footballer who has enjoyed a long career in football management starting in 1983 with Bournemouth. He is the current manager of Tottenham Hotspur....
as Southampton manager in December 2004, just days after he had resigned as manager of Portsmouth, and less than a month after the Saints had beaten Portsmouth at St Mary's Stadium
St Mary's Stadium
St Mary's Stadium is the home of Southampton F.C., in the city of Southampton. It is a UEFA 4-star rated stadium and with a capacity of 32,689 is the largest football stadium in the south of England, outside of London.-History:...
. The following month, the Saints were drawn against and defeated their rivals in a fiery FA Cup
FA Cup
The Football Association Challenge Cup, commonly known as the FA Cup, is a knockout cup competition in English football and is the oldest association football competition in the world. The "FA Cup" is run by and named after The Football Association and usually refers to the English men's...
match, with former Portsmouth striker Peter Crouch
Peter Crouch
Peter James Crouch is an English footballer who plays as a striker for Premier League club Stoke City and the England national team.Crouch started his career as a trainee with Tottenham Hotspur...
(who would go on to rejoin Portsmouth in 2008) scoring the decisive penalty in the last minute of the match.
However, Portsmouth struck back in the next (and most recent) league encounter between the rivals, with Southampton losing 4–1 at Fratton Park
Fratton Park
Fratton Park is a football stadium in the English city-port of Portsmouth. It has been the home of professional club Portsmouth F.C. since its construction in 1898.-Description:...
in Redknapp's only return to the ground with the club. Southampton were subsequently relegated from the Premiership on the final day of the 2004-05 season, ending their 27 year run in the top flight of English Football. Southampton were again relegated in April 2009, this time from the Championship to League One, although Portsmouth were in turn relegated to the Championship for the 2010–11 season after having been deducted nine points as a penalty for entering administration
Administration (British football)
Sports clubs in the United Kingdom, most often in football, sometimes choose to enter administration when they are unable to pay off outstanding debts. Under the Insolvency Act 1986 a business will face a winding up order bringing them to court and if it is shown that a business cannot pay debts as...
.
Harry Redknapp
The acrimonious departure of Harry Redknapp from Portsmouth to Southampton brought the bitter rivalry between the two clubs to a new level. When Redknapp returned to Portsmouth in November 2005 following Southampton's relegation, it only served to further sour relations between the two clubs, which arguably remain at an all-time low. The two club's chairmen at the time, Rupert LoweRupert Lowe
Rupert James Graham Lowe is a British businessman, who was the chairman of Southampton Football Club from 1996 to 2006. He regained his power in May 2008, teaming up with Michael Wilde, who had previously forced Lowe out, becoming chairman of the club's parent company, Southampton Leisure Holdings...
(Southampton) and Milan Mandaric
Milan Mandaric
Milan Mandarić is a Serbian-American business tycoon who has owned a string of successful businesses and football clubs including Portsmouth, Leicester City and Sheffield Wednesday. He currently is the chairman of Sheffield Wednesday...
(Portsmouth), publicly criticised one another on a number of occasions, with Lowe calling for an inquest into irregular betting patterns in the run-up to Redknapp's re-appointment. Mandaric had even sent a boxed duck as a Christmas "gift" to Lowe (as Lowe had been on a hunting trip when the "ordeal" began), but the gesture only furthered the animosity between the two.
Current positions
The most recent encounter between the two teams came in the FA CupFA Cup
The Football Association Challenge Cup, commonly known as the FA Cup, is a knockout cup competition in English football and is the oldest association football competition in the world. The "FA Cup" is run by and named after The Football Association and usually refers to the English men's...
at St Mary's Stadium
St Mary's Stadium
St Mary's Stadium is the home of Southampton F.C., in the city of Southampton. It is a UEFA 4-star rated stadium and with a capacity of 32,689 is the largest football stadium in the south of England, outside of London.-History:...
on 13 February 2010, when Portsmouth (then a Premier League club) won their first FA Cup encounter between the two teams. In 2011, Portsmouth finished 16th in The Championship
Football League Championship
The Football League Championship is the highest division of The Football League and second-highest division overall in the English football league system after the Premier League...
whilst Southampton were promoted to the Championship from League One, meaning the 2011–12 season will see the two sides meet in the same division for the first time since 2005.
Inter-fan rivalry
Exactly when the fierce rivalry between the supporters of the two clubs began is not entirely clear. Until as recently as the early 1970s, many fans would go and watch the other team when their side was playing away, indicating anything but hatred. Some ascribe the growing rivalry since then to the cities' diverging economic fortunes.Nicknames
Portsmouth supporters often refer to Southampton supporters as "scum" or "scummers". There are a number of competing theories as to origin and supporters of many clubs refer to their rivals as "scum", although Portsmouth fans more commonly use the term "the scummers". Apocryphally Portsmouth dockyard workers went on strike and scabs from Southampton were brought in to replace them.Southampton supporters have taken to referring to their local rivals as "Skate
Skate
Skates are cartilaginous fish belonging to the family Rajidae in the superorder Batoidea of rays. There are more than 200 described species in 27 genera. There are two subfamilies, Rajinae and Arhynchobatinae ....
s". This is a derisive alternative to "matelot" to describe naval sailors, Portsmouth being the home of the Royal Navy
Royal Navy
The Royal Navy is the naval warfare service branch of the British Armed Forces. Founded in the 16th century, it is the oldest service branch and is known as the Senior Service...
. This term is in fact originally a dismissive one for sailors, possibly originating in Portsmouth, which most Southampton fans have adopted. It was made popular as an abusive term towards Portsmouth fans after a Southampton fanzine asked readers to help search for the term most likely to cause offence to them.
"First class" competitions
| Competition | Played | Results | Goals | |||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Saints | Pompey | Draw | Saints | Pompey | ||
| Southern League Southern Football League The Southern League is an English football competition featuring semi-professional and amateur clubs from the South West, South Central and Midlands of England and South Wales... |
32 | 15 | 12 | 5 | 43 | 43 |
| Football League The Football League The Football League, also known as the npower Football League for sponsorship reasons, is a league competition featuring professional association football clubs from England and Wales. Founded in 1888, it is the oldest such competition in world football... |
26 | 12 | 6 | 8 | 47 | 33 |
| Premier League | 4 | 2 | 2 | 0 | 6 | 6 |
| FA Cup FA Cup The Football Association Challenge Cup, commonly known as the FA Cup, is a knockout cup competition in English football and is the oldest association football competition in the world. The "FA Cup" is run by and named after The Football Association and usually refers to the English men's... |
5 | 4 | 1 | 0 | 12 | 6 |
| League Cup Football League Cup The Football League Cup, commonly known as the League Cup or, from current sponsorship, the Carling Cup, is an English association football competition. Like the FA Cup, it is played on a knockout basis... |
1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 |
| TOTAL | 68 | 34 | 21 | 13 | 110 | 88 |
All official competitions
Including the above matches, plus Southern District Combination, Western League, Southern Alliance League and other official cup matches.Portsmouth – 62
Southampton – 56
Drawn – 19
League
| Date | Venue | Score | Competition |
|---|---|---|---|
| 11 September 1920 | The Dell | 5–1 | Third Division Football League Third Division The Football League Third Division was the 3 tier of English Football from 1920 until 1992 when after the formation of the Football Association Premier League saw the league renamed The Football League Division Two... |
| 25 March 1922 | The Dell | 1–1 | Third Division (South) Football League Third Division South The Football League Third Division South was a level of English professional football which ran in parallel to Third Division North from 1921 to 1958.... |
| 27 September 1924 | The Dell | 0–0 | Second Division Football League Second Division From 1892 until 1992, the Football League Second Division was the second highest division overall in English football.This ended with the creation of the FA Premier League, prior to the start of the 1992–93 season, which caused an administrative split between The Football League and the teams... |
| 5 September 1925 | The Dell | 1–3 | Second Division |
| 15 January 1927 | The Dell | 0–2 | Second Division |
| 27 August 1960 | The Dell | 5–1 | Second Division |
| 2 March 1963 | The Dell | 4–2 | Second Division |
| 8 February 1963 | The Dell | 2–3 | Second Division |
| 16 January 1965 | The Dell | 2–2 | Second Division |
| 28 August 1964 | The Dell | 2–2 | Second Division |
| 14 September 1974 | The Dell | 2–1 | Second Division |
| 17 April 1975 | The Dell | 4–0 | Second Division |
| 3 January 1988 | The Dell | 0–2 | First Division Football League First Division The First Division was a division of The Football League between 1888 and 2004 and the highest division in English football until the creation of the Premier League in 1992. The secondary tier in English football has since become known as the Championship.... |
| 21 December 2003 | St Mary's St Mary's Stadium St Mary's Stadium is the home of Southampton F.C., in the city of Southampton. It is a UEFA 4-star rated stadium and with a capacity of 32,689 is the largest football stadium in the south of England, outside of London.-History:... |
3–0 | Premier League |
| 13 November 2004 | St Mary's | 2–1 | Premier League |
| Southampton wins | Draws | Portsmouth wins |
|---|---|---|
| 7 | 4 | 4 |
Portsmo>th vs Southampton
| Date | Venue | Score | Competition |
|---|---|---|---|
| 18 September 1920 | Fratton Park Fratton Park Fratton Park is a football stadium in the English city-port of Portsmouth. It has been the home of professional club Portsmouth F.C. since its construction in 1898.-Description:... |
0–1 | Third Division Football League Third Division The Football League Third Division was the 3 tier of English Football from 1920 until 1992 when after the formation of the Football Association Premier League saw the league renamed The Football League Division Two... |
| 18 March 1922 | Fratton Park | 0–2 | Third Division (South) Football League Third Division South The Football League Third Division South was a level of English professional football which ran in parallel to Third Division North from 1921 to 1958.... |
| 29 November 1924 | Fratton Park | 1–1 | Second Division Football League Second Division From 1892 until 1992, the Football League Second Division was the second highest division overall in English football.This ended with the creation of the FA Premier League, prior to the start of the 1992–93 season, which caused an administrative split between The Football League and the teams... |
| 16 January 1926 | Fratton Park | 1–2 | Second Division |
| 28 August 1926 | Fratton Park | 3–1 | Second Division |
| 31 December 1960 | Fratton Park | 1–1 | Second Division |
| 13 October 1962 | Fratton Park | 1–1 | Second Division |
| 28 September 1963 | Fratton Park | 2–0 | Second Division |
| 12 September 1964 | Fratton Park | 0–3 | Second Division |
| 5 February 1966 | Fratton Park | 2–5 | Second Division |
| 26 December 1974 | Fratton Park | 1–2 | Second Division |
| 6 April 1976 | Fratton Park | 0–1 | Second Division |
| 22 August 1987 | Fratton Park | 2–2 | First Division Football League First Division The First Division was a division of The Football League between 1888 and 2004 and the highest division in English football until the creation of the Premier League in 1992. The secondary tier in English football has since become known as the Championship.... |
| 21 March 2004 | Fratton Park | 1–0 | Premier League |
| 24 April 2005 | Fratton Park | 4–1 | Premier League |
| Portsmouth wins | Draws | Southampton wins |
|---|---|---|
| 4 | 4 | 7 |
Pompey will host Saints at Fratton Park on 18 December 2011; Saints will host Pompey on 7 April 2012.
Cup tournaments
| Date | Score | Winner | Competition | Venue |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 13 January 1906 | |
style="background:red;color:white">Southampton | FA Cup FA Cup The Football Association Challenge Cup, commonly known as the FA Cup, is a knockout cup competition in English football and is the oldest association football competition in the world. The "FA Cup" is run by and named after The Football Association and usually refers to the English men's... |
The Dell |
| 20 January 1984 | |
style="background:red;color:white">Southampton | FA Cup | Fratton Park |
| 7 January 1996 | |
style="background:red;color:white">Southampton | FA Cup | The Dell |
| 2 December 2003 | |
style="background:red;color:white">Southampton | League Cup Football League Cup The Football League Cup, commonly known as the League Cup or, from current sponsorship, the Carling Cup, is an English association football competition. Like the FA Cup, it is played on a knockout basis... |
St Mary's |
| 29 January 2005 | |
style="background:red;color:white">Southampton | FA Cup | St Mary's |
| 13 February 2010 | |
style="background:#0000FF; color:#FFFF00">Portsmouth |
FA Cup | St Mary's |
Players who have played for both clubs
Updated to 31 August 2009| Player | Portsmouth career | Southampton career | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Span | League Appearances |
League Goals |
Span | League Appearances |
League Goals |
|
| John Bainbridge John Bainbridge (footballer) John Robert Bainbridge was a professional footballer who played as a forward for three Southern League clubs between 1903 and 1910.... |
1906–1907 | 25 | 4 | 1907–1910 | 84 | 20 |
| Ian Baird Ian Baird Ian Baird is an ex-professional footballer whose most notable spell was as a player for Leeds United. He had two spells at the club with his first spell having a season as captain and his second spell including a player of the year award and just after he left, he got a second division... |
1987–1988 | 20 | 1 | 1982–1985 | 22 | 5 |
| Dave Beasant Dave Beasant David John "Dave" Beasant, is a retired English football goalkeeper who began his career in the late 1970s. A well-travelled player, Beasant's former clubs include Wimbledon, Newcastle United, Chelsea, Southampton, Nottingham Forest, Portsmouth, Tottenham Hotspur, Brighton & Hove Albion and Wigan... |
2001–2002 | 27 | 0 | 1993–1997 | 88 | 0 |
| Billy Beaumont Billy Beaumont William Edward "Billy" Beaumont was an English footballer who played as a half back for three Southern League clubs in the early part of the twentieth century.-Football career:... |
1907–1910 | 70 | 2 | 1910–1911 | 27 | 0 |
| Edward Bell Edward Bell (footballer) Edward Inkerman Jordan Bell MC was a British professional footballer who played for Southampton and Portsmouth in the early 20th century. He later was a soldier who was twice awarded for gallantry in the First World War but died in the Battle of the Somme in March 1918.-Football career:Bell was... |
1911–1912 | 4 | 0 | 1906–1908 | 4 | 0 |
| John Beresford John Beresford (footballer) John Beresford is a former English football player who played as a defender, who is currently a pundit for ITV Tyne Tees and ESPN.-Football career:... |
1989–1992 | 108 | 8 | 1998–2000 | 17 | 0 |
| Eyal Berkovic Eyal Berkovic Eyal Berkovic is an Israeli former footballer. He played as a midfielder.He is known in Israel by the nickname Ha-Kosem .... |
2004–2005 | 22 | 2 | 1996–1997 | 28 | 4 |
| Robert Blyth Robert Blyth Robert Roberts Taylor Blyth was a Scottish professional footballer in the 1920s.-Football career:Blyth was born in Muirkirk Scotland – his father was the Portsmouth player Bob Blyth, who went on to manage Portsmouth from 1901 to 1904 and his cousins included Bill Shankly and Bob Shankly.He made... |
1921–1922 | 8 | 2 | 1922–1923 | 8 | 0 |
| Tommy Bowman Tommy Bowman Thomas "Tommy" Bowman was a Scottish professional footballer who played as a half back in the 1902 FA Cup final for Southampton.-Playing career:... |
1904–1909 | 85 | 3 | 1901–1904 | 88 | 2 |
| Arthur Charles Brown | 1907–1910 | 9 | 0 | 1906–1907 1910–1912 |
0 39 |
0 0 |
| Arthur Chadwick Arthur Chadwick Arthur Chadwick was a professional footballer whose playing career included spells at Portsmouth and Southampton, before going on to be manager at Exeter City, Reading and Southampton... |
1901–1904 | 43 | 9 | 1897–1901 | 81 | 6 |
| Mick Channon Mick Channon Michael Roger "Mick" Channon is a sportsman who enjoyed a career as a striker with Southampton and England in the 1970s and later became a hugely successful racehorse trainer.-Southampton:... |
1985–1986 | 34 | 6 | 1966–1977 1979–1982 |
391 119 |
157 28 |
| Colin Clarke | 1990–1993 | 85 | 18 | 1986–1989 | 82 | 36 |
| Eamonn Collins Eamonn Collins (footballer) Eamonn Anthony Stephen Collins is an Irish retired footballer and football manager, who is now a players' agent.In his playing career, he was the youngest player ever to turn out in a professional game in England, when he played for Blackpool in 1980, six weeks before his 15th birthday... |
1986–1989 | 5 | 0 | 1981–1983 | 3 | 0 |
| Andy Cook Andy Cook Andrew Charles "Andy" Cook is a former professional football player and physiotherapist at WokingAfter playing for Halterworth and Mountbatten school teams, Cook gained representative honours for Eastleigh and Winchester Schools, and Hampshire Schools, before signing as a trainee at Southampton in... |
1987–1991 | 16 | 1 | 1997–1998 | 9 | 0 |
| Martin Cranie Martin Cranie Martin James Cranie is an English footballer, currently playing for Championship club Coventry City. He began his career with the famous Southampton youth academy playing alongside Theo Walcott and Gareth Bale before moving to local rivals Portsmouth and later to Coventry City after several loan... |
2007–2009 | 2 | 0 | 2004–2007 | 16 | 0 |
| Peter Crouch Peter Crouch Peter James Crouch is an English footballer who plays as a striker for Premier League club Stoke City and the England national team.Crouch started his career as a trainee with Tottenham Hotspur... |
2001–2002 2008–2009 |
37 38 |
18 11 |
2004–2005 | 27 | 12 |
| Ron Davies | 1973–1974 | 59 | 18 | 1966–1972 | 240 | 134 |
| C. B. Fry | 1902–1903 | 2 | 0 | 1900–1902 | 16 | 0 |
| Ricardo Fuller Ricardo Fuller Ricardo Dwayne Fuller is a Jamaican footballer who plays as a striker for Premier League club Stoke City and the Jamaica national team.... |
2004–2005 | 31 | 1 | 2005–2006 | 31 | 9 |
| Paul Gilchrist Paul Gilchrist Paul Anthony Gilchrist is a former footballer, who won the FA Cup with Southampton in 1976.-Early career:Gilchrist was a Charlton apprentice and played 7 league games for them... |
1977–1978 | 39 | 3 | 1972–1977 | 107 | 17 |
| Mervyn Gill Mervyn Gill Mervyn John Gill is a retired English football goalkeeper who spent most of his playing career with Torquay United.-Early career:... |
1953–1955 | 6 | 0 | 1955–1956 | 1 | 0 |
| Jon Gittens Jon Gittens Jonathan Antoni "Jon" Gittens, , is a former footballer who played for Swindon Town as well as for Southampton, Middlesbrough, Portsmouth, Torquay United and Exeter City.-Southampton:... |
1993–1996 | 83 | 1 | 1985-1987 1991-1992 |
18 19 |
0 0 |
| Alex Glen Alex Glen Alexander Glen was a Scottish footballer who played as an inside-forward for various clubs in the 1900s.-Football career:Glen was born in Kilsyth in Lanarkshire, Scotland and was a medical student at the Glasgow Royal Infirmary... |
1907–1908 | 7 | 1 | 1906–1907 | 29 | 10 |
| Ivan Golac Ivan Golac Ivan Golac is a former Yugoslav football player and manager.A Yugoslav international right back, he is best known as a player and manager of FK Partizan, of Belgrade... |
1985 | 8 | 0 | 1978–1983 1984–1985 |
144 24 |
4 0 |
| Willie Haines Willie Haines Wyndham William Pretoria "Willie" Haines was an English footballer who played at centre-forward for south coast rivals, Portsmouth and then Southampton in the 1920s and 1930s.-Football career:... |
1922–1928 | 164 | 119 | 1928–1932 | 70 | 47 |
| Trevor Hebberd Trevor Hebberd Trevor Neal Hebberd is a retired English footballer who played as a midfielder.-Southampton:He signed for Southampton on leaving school in 1974 and made his first team debut two years later in a 2–2 draw against Hull City at Boothferry Park in the Second Division. He managed 12 league appearances... |
1991 | 4 | 0 | 1976–1982 | 97 | 7 |
| Scott Hiley Scott Hiley Scott Patrick Hiley is an English former footballer.-Football career:A defender, mainly at right-back, Hiley first came through the Exeter City youth system in 1986... |
1999–2002 | 75 | 0 | 1998–1999 | 32 | 0 |
| Barry Horne Barry Horne (footballer) Barry Horne is a Welsh former professional footballer and former chairman of the Professional Footballers Association.-Playing career:... |
1987–1989 | 70 | 7 | 1989–1992 | 112 | 6 |
| Ted Hough Ted Hough Edward "Ted" Hough was an English footballer who spent most of his career with Southampton playing as a centre-half and later as a full-back.-Southampton:... |
1931–1932 | 1 | 0 | 1921–1931 | 175 | 0 |
| Kelly Houlker Kelly Houlker Albert Edward "Kelly" Houlker was an English footballer who played at left-half for Blackburn Rovers and England.-Playing career:... |
1902–1903 | 23 | 1 | 1903–1906 | 59 | 3 |
| Bill Kennedy Bill Kennedy (footballer) William Kennedy was a Scottish professional footballer who played as a half back with various clubs in the 1930s.-Playing career:... |
1932–1933 | 1 | 0 | 1936–1938 | 43 | 0 |
| George Lawrence George Lawrence (footballer) George Randolph Lawrence is a former professional footballer now retired. He played as a midfielder, spending most of his career with Southampton and was known by the nickname "Chicken George" throughout his career.-Playing career:... |
1993 | 12 | 0 | 1980–1982 1985-1987 |
10 70 |
1 11 |
| John Lewis John Lewis (footballer born 1881) John Richard Lewis was a Welsh international footballer, who played his club football as a forward for various clubs in the south of England.-Playing career:... |
1900–1901 | 21 | 7 | 1907–1908 | 24 | 10 |
| Alex McDonald | 1902–1903 | 7 | 7 | 1901 | 5 | 5 |
| Johnny McIlwaine Johnny McIlwaine John "Johnny" McIlwaine was a Scottish footballer who played as a centre half for Portsmouth, where he captained the team in the 1929 FA Cup Final, before moving to south coast rivals Southampton... |
1928–1930 | 56 | 5 | 1930–1932 1933–1937 |
46 81 |
9 9 |
| Jerry Mackie Jerry Mackie James "Jerry" Mackie was a Scottish footballer who played at inside forward for south coast rivals, Portsmouth and then Southampton in the 1920s and 1930s.-Football career:... |
1920–1928 | 278 | 78 | 1928–1931 | 81 | 24 |
| Alan McLoughlin Alan McLoughlin Alan Francis McLoughlin is a former Irish coach, and former professional footballer, playing as a midfielder.-Career:... |
1992–1999 | 309 | 54 | 1990–1992 | 24 | 1 |
| Steve Middleton | 1977–1978 | 26 | 0 | 1969–1970 | 24 | 0 |
| George Molyneux George Molyneux George Molyneux was a professional footballer who played in the 1902 FA Cup final for Southampton.-Honours:Southampton* FA Cup finalist: 1902... |
1905–1906 | 23 | 0 | 1900–1905 | 142 | 0 |
| Harry Penk Harry Penk Henry "Harry" Penk was an English footballer who played as a winger.Having grown up during the Second World War, he began his career in non-league football with Wigan Athletic before joining Portsmouth in 1955. Despite limited first team opportunities, Penk scored two goals in nine league... |
1955–1957 | 9 | 2 | 1960–1964 | 52 | 6 |
| Vincent Péricard Vincent Péricard Vincent de Paul Péricard is a French professional football player, who played in France with Saint Etienne and in Italy with Juventus before moving to England. In England he has played for several clubs. He has also played for the France U21 team... |
2002–2006 | 44 | 9 | 2008 | 5 | 0 |
| Matt Reilly Matt Reilly (footballer) Matthew Michael "Matt" Reilly was an Irish international goalkeeper who played most of his career with Portsmouth in the Southern League. He also had spells with Southampton and Tottenham Hotspur in the Southern League, with Notts County in the Football League, with Dundee in the Scottish Football... |
1899–1904 | 138 | 0 | 1895 | 2 | 0 |
| Nigel Quashie Nigel Quashie Nigel Francis Quashie is a British footballer who has played more than 300 games in the Football League. He plays as a midfielder, and has represented Scotland, the country of his grandfather, at full international level. He was released by Queens Park Rangers in 2010.-Personal life:Quashie was... |
2000–2005 | 148 | 13 | 2005–2006 | 37 | 5 |
| Matthew Robinson Matthew Robinson (footballer) Matthew Richard Robinson is a professional footballer who currently plays as a full back for Swindon Supermarine.-Playing career:... |
1998–2000 | 69 | 1 | 1993–1998 | 14 | 0 |
| Bill Rochford Bill Rochford William "Bill" Rochford was a member of the Portsmouth team that won the 1939 FA Cup. He played over 100 matches for Portsmouth and for their south coast rivals, Southampton.-Playing career:... |
1931–1946 | 138 | 1 | 1946–1950 | 128 | 0 |
| Bobby Stokes Bobby Stokes Bobby Stokes was an English footballer, well known for scoring the winning goal in the 83rd minute of the FA Cup Final for Southampton F.C. against Manchester United in 1976.-Early career:... |
1977–1978 | 24 | 2 | 1968–1977 | 216 | 40 |
| Isaac Tomlinson Isaac Tomlinson Isaac "Ike" Tomlinson was an English footballer who played at outside-left for various clubs in England and Scotland in the 1900s, spending the largest part of his career with Chesterfield.-Football career:... |
1906–1907 | 5 | 0 | 1905–1906 | 29 | 8 |
| Jhon Viáfara | 2005–2006 | 14 | 1 | 2006–2008 | 76 | 5 |
| Grégory Vignal Gregory Vignal Grégory Vignal is a French footballer. A left full back or midfielder, he is currently a free agent, having played most recently for Premier League club Birmingham City.... |
2005–2006 | 14 | 0 | 2007–2008 | 20 | 3 |
| Malcolm Waldron Malcolm Waldron Malcolm Waldron born 6 September 1956 is a former footballer who played for various clubs, including Southampton and Portsmouth. He played as a Centre back during the late 1970s and early 1980s.-Southampton:... |
1984–1986 | 23 | 1 | 1974–1983 | 178 | 10 |
| Jack Warner Jack Warner (footballer born 1883) John "Jack" Warner was an English professional footballer who played as a full-back in the years prior to World War I, spending most of his career with Portsmouth in the Southern League.-Football career:... |
1906–1915 | 227 | 10 | 1905–1906 | 17 | 0 |
| Ernest Williams Ernest Williams (footballer) Ernest W. Williams was an English footballer who played at outside-left for Portsmouth, Chelsea and Southampton in the 1900s and 1910s... |
1906–1909 | 32 | 5 | 1912 | 1 | 0 |
Played for one, managed/coached the other
- Alan Ball
- Kevin BondKevin Bond (footballer)Kevin John Bond is an English football manager and former player. He is the son of John Bond, also a former footballer. He is currently employed as assistant manager at Tottenham Hotspur.-Playing career:...
- Arthur ChadwickArthur ChadwickArthur Chadwick was a professional footballer whose playing career included spells at Portsmouth and Southampton, before going on to be manager at Exeter City, Reading and Southampton...
- Jimmy EassonJimmy EassonJames Ferrier "Jimmy" Easson was a Scottish footballer who played as an inside-forward for Portsmouth in the English Football League, helping them reach the FA Cup Final in 1934...
- Joe JordanJoe Jordan (footballer)Joseph "Joe" Jordan is a Scottish football coach and former player and manager. He is currently first team coach for English Premier League club Tottenham Hotspur, under manager Harry Redknapp....
- Steve WigleySteve WigleySteve Wigley is an English football coach and former player for Nottingham Forest, Sheffield United, Birmingham City, Portsmouth and Exeter City. He made 340 appearances in the Football League. He is the former manager of Southampton and the former assistant/caretaker manager for Bristol City...
- Harry WoodHarry Wood (footballer)Harry Wood was a professional footballer who played most of his career as an inside-forward for Wolverhampton Wanderers and Southampton.-Wolverhampton Wanderers:...
Women's football
Both Portsmouth and Southampton have women's counterpartsWomen's football in England
While women's football has been played in England for over a century, it has only been in the 1990s that the game has seen a large increase in female players, as well as in female spectators, culminating in England hosting the Women's European Championships in 2005....
. Although Southampton Saints L.F.C.
Southampton Saints L.F.C.
Southampton Saints Girls and Ladies Football Club is an English women's football club formerly affiliated with Southampton F.C.. They play in the South West Combination Women's Football League, after winning the Southern Region Women's Footbal League in 2009–10.The club is descended from the...
has the better history, with their record 9 FA Women's Cup
FA Women's Cup
The Football Association Women’s Challenge Cup Competition, commonly referred to as the FA Women's Cup, is the top cup competition for women's football clubs in England – designed as an exact equivalent to the FA Cup created 99 years earlier...
s won and their once-star player Sue Lopez
Sue Lopez
Sue Lopez MBE has been one of the most prominent figures in England’s women's football for the last three decades. Lopez had an amazing playing career of 20 years and is now prominent as one of the leading authorities and advocates of the women’s game in the UK....
having made it all the way to the English Football Hall of Fame
English Football Hall of Fame
The English Football Hall of Fame is housed at the National Football Museum, currently being relocated to Manchester, England. The Hall aims to celebrate and highlight the achievements of the all-time top English footballing talents, as well as non-English players and managers who have become...
, most of their achievements came before the creation of the actual Women's Premiership
FA Women's Premier League National Division
The FA Women's Premier League National Division is the second level of the English women's football league pyramid. From 1991 until the introduction of the summer competition FA Women's Super League the National Division functioned as the top league in England. Below it are simultaneously the...
. Portsmouth L.F.C.
Portsmouth L.F.C.
Portsmouth FC Ladies, colloquially known as "Pompey Ladies", is a women's football club for the south coast city of Portsmouth in Hampshire, England. The club currently plays in the FA Women's Premier League Southern Division...
is a relative newcomer to the women's game by contrast.
Both teams played in the Southern Championship
FA Women's Premier League Southern Division
The FA Women's Premier League Southern Division is a league in the Third level in the women's football pyramid in England, along with the Northern division. These two divisions are below the FA Women's Super League and National Division...
in the 2006–07 season. Portsmouth was a strong contender for promotion (they finished 3rd), while Southampton was relegated to the Regional Combinations. Interestingly, the current Portsmouth manager, Vanessa Raynbird, played in and later managed Southampton as well.
Major honours won by the clubs
When it comes to honours Pompey have the edge, as follows:| Honours | Portsmouth | Southampton |
|---|---|---|
| Football League First Division/Premier League English football champions The English football champions are the winners of the highest league in English football, which is currently the Premier League. Teams in bold are those who won the double of League Championship and FA Cup, or the European Double of League Championship and European Cup in that season.Following the... (first tier) |
Champions 1948–49, 1949–50 | Runners-up 1983–84 |
| Football League Second Division/Football League First Division (second tier) | Champions 2003, Runners-up 1927, 1987 | Runners-up 1966, 1978 |
| Football League Third Division (South)/Football League Third Division (third tier) | Champions 1924, 1962, 1983 | Champions 1922, 1960, Runners-up 2011 |
| FA Cup FA Cup The Football Association Challenge Cup, commonly known as the FA Cup, is a knockout cup competition in English football and is the oldest association football competition in the world. The "FA Cup" is run by and named after The Football Association and usually refers to the English men's... |
Winners 1939 1939 FA Cup Final The 1939 FA Cup Final was contested by Portsmouth and Wolverhampton Wanderers at Wembley. Portsmouth won 4–1, with goals from Bert Barlow, John Anderson and two by Cliff Parker... , 2008 2008 FA Cup Final The 2008 FA Cup Final was a football match held at Wembley Stadium on 17 May 2008 and was the final match of the 2007–08 FA Cup competition. The match was the 127th FA Cup Final, and the second to be held at the new Wembley Stadium since its redevelopment. The match was contested by Portsmouth and... , Runners-up 1929 1929 FA Cup Final The 1929 FA Cup Final was contested by Bolton Wanderers and Portsmouth at Wembley. Bolton won 2–0, with goals by Billy Butler and Harry Blackmore.- Match details:-Bolton Wanderers:Round 3: Bolton Wanderers 2–0 Oldham Athletic... , 1934, 2010 2010 FA Cup Final The 2010 FA Cup Final was the 129th final of the FA Cup, the world's oldest domestic football cup competition. The match took place on 15 May 2010, at Wembley Stadium, London... |
Winners 1976, Runners-up 1900 1900 FA Cup Final The 1900 FA Cup Final was contested by Bury and Southampton at Crystal Palace. Bury won 4–0, with goals by Jasper McLuckie , Willie Wood and John Plant. This final was the last of the 19th Century and the first victory in the FA Cup for Bury, who beat a team who similarly had never reached... , 1902 1902 FA Cup Final The 1902 FA Cup Final was contested by Sheffield United and Southampton at Crystal Palace. The match finished 1–1 after extra time, with the goals scored by Alf Common for Sheffield United and Harry Wood for Southampton.... , 2003 |
| League Cup Football League Cup The Football League Cup, commonly known as the League Cup or, from current sponsorship, the Carling Cup, is an English association football competition. Like the FA Cup, it is played on a knockout basis... |
- | Runners-up 1979 1979 Football League Cup Final The 1979 Football League Cup Final took place on 17 March 1979 at Wembley Stadium. It was the nineteenth Football League Cup final and the thirteenth to be played at Wembley. It was contested between Nottingham Forest and Southampton. Forest were the hot favourites to win being the holders of the... |
| FA Charity Shield FA Community Shield The Football Association Community Shield is English football's annual match contested between the champions of the previous Premier League season and the holders of the FA Cup at Wembley Stadium. If the Premier League champions also won the FA Cup then the league runners-up provide the opposition... |
Winners 1949 (Shared) 1949 FA Charity Shield The 1949 FA Charity Shield was the 27th FA Charity Shield, a pre-season exhibition football match between the winners of the previous season's First Division and FA Cup titles. The match took place at Highbury, London, between the league champions Portsmouth and FA Cup winners Wolverhampton Wanderers... , Runners-up 2008 2008 FA Community Shield The 2008 FA Community Shield was a football match played on 10 August 2008 between 2007–08 Premier League champions Manchester United and 2007–08 FA Cup winners Portsmouth as the "curtain-raiser" to the 2008–09 English football season... |
Runners-up 1976 |
| Southern League | Champions 1902, 1920, Runners-up 1900, 1907 | Champions: 1897, 1898, 1899, 1901, 1903, 1904 |
| Western Football League Western Football League The Western Football League is a football league in the south west of England, covering Bristol, Cornwall, Devon, Somerset, western Dorset, parts of Gloucestershire and Wiltshire and parts of South Wales... |
Champions 1901, 1902, 1903, Runners-up 1908 | Champions 1908, Runners-up 1904, 1906, 1909 |
| Football League Trophy Football League Trophy The Football League Trophy, currently known as the Johnstone's Paint Trophy for sponsorship reasons, is an annual English association football knock-out competition open to the 48 clubs in Football League One and Football League Two, the bottom two divisions in the four fully professional top... |
- | Winners: 2010 |
External links
- "Chimes could be a-changing", BBC SportBBC SportBBC Sport is the sports division of the BBC. It became a fully dedicated division of the BBC in 2000. It incorporates programmes such as Match of the Day, Grandstand , Test Match Special, Ski Sunday, Rugby Special and coverage of Formula One motor racing, MotoGP and the Wimbledon Tennis...
article on the rivalry between Southampton and Portsmouth - Scummers v Skates (Article in Guardian newspaper 23 January 2005)