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What do you believe happens to us after we die?
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susingh
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So-called KARMA theory about re-incarnation has been viewed earlier also through this forum and is re-iterated here under for one's detailed study/opinion please)-

1. Is there any Religion which does not scare about the wraths of GOD instead of teaching to be GOD loving instead of GOD fearing? Is the existence of Religion based on fears of GOD only?

2. Has anyone attempted to work on the philosophy of loving GOD instead of living a life of fears from GOD under the misgivings of various Religious PANDITS?

3. Then question arises as to how to love GOD?
Now let us attempt to resolve the issue in totality, if possible?

While believing in KARMA philosophy every GURU/MASTER forces us to see the movie of one’s life after interval only, by saying even that at the time of birth 50% of one’s KARMAS come from previous births. Thus viewing the life movie after interval makes us to be fearful throughout. If so, can anyone conclude any story by seeing it from the interval only?

One may not get confused to read this question because no GURU wants to allow and explain the life movie from the beginning of journey of every soul.

So in order to have details of one’s life movie from the beginning one needs to know the answers to following questions:-

a) Is it correct to claim that there might be ZERO balance in one’s KARMA account in the beginning of the movie of this life?

b) If so, then how did the KARMA account progress at the time of beginning of journey of the soul coming to the world for the first time?

c) In that case it was necessary to evolve the definition of GOOD AND BAD for keeping account of KARMA DEBITS AND CREDITS. If so who evolved the definition of good and bad karmas?

d) Then how did any soul come in the form of human, animal or plant in the beginning of life movie?

e) Does anyone has doubt that by seeing any movie after interval, everyone would narrate the movie to others in quite different ways, as is being done by different Religious Pundits?

f) Finally, every KARMA is to be treated as different currency being a different seed to bear different fruit (Non-convertible currencies of KARMAS). In that case, can the KARMA account get settled in any manner at any stage so as to give/decide an ending of the life movie? While answering this question it is very clear that murder of human cannot be related or equated with killing of an animal as also killing of plants on the pretext of their different cancious levels. Similarly donating any organ for a patient after or before death cannot be equated with money donations for shelter of COWS or donations for the welfare of cancer patients or for giving food to any hungry one. All these KARMAS are to be debited or credited in different currencies having different fruits in the form of awards or pains.

g) But unless, all these KARMA accounts are cleared, how can the life movie end with the grace of any GURU/MASTER, who also scare us from the wrath of our KARMA debts without any recourse or help, except stressing the need of sowing the seeds of best KARMAS in human form and to minimize the KARMA debits in the current human form?

In absence of any satisfactory answer to above questions, one needs to use one’s own wisdom only to live a very simple and honest life by worshipping one’s job and spreading love around in addition to looking after family and parents to resolve all liabilities in a duty bound manner.

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susingh
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In another box some Mr.0027 has also talked about KARMA PHILOSOPHY in this way:-

"One friend, after reading a book,” Conversation with GOD” shared following points, raised by GOD to him:-

1. God to friend, “Since Religious Saints have appointed me accountant to keep KARMA account of every living, plant, animal as also those of human beings, who will decide the definition of GOOD and BAD KARMAS for making correct entries in debit or credit account of each living beings, because according to GOD, HE never laid down any such definition and such definition laid down by each Religion was quite different and remained changing from time to time?”

2. Friend to GOD, “If so, is the KARMA philosophy of Lord Krishna being disputed by YOU GOD?

3. GOD to Friend, “Then what about Christians, Muslims, Jews, or GODs of other Religions who do not believe in your LORS KRISHNA or they do not know ABC about what has been written in GITA?

YEH PAAP HAI KYA AUR PUNYA HAI KYA, REETON PAR DHARAM KI MOHREN HAIN !

YUG YUG MEIN BADLATE DHARMO KO KAISE ADARSH BANAO GE !

SANSAAR SE BHAGE PHIRTE HO BHAGWAAN KO TUM KYA PAO GE !!

TUM KAHTE HO YEH JAG SAPNA HAI, HUM KAHTE HAIN YEH JAG APNA HAI !

TUM JANAM GAWA KE JAO GE HUM JANAM BITAA KE JAEN GE!

SANSAAR SE BHAGE PHIRTE HO BHAGWAAN KO TUM KYA PAO GE !!

So finally the said part of conversation, with GOD, is shared with this forum to know as to how anyone could make correct entries in debit or credit accounts of any soul in absence of any universal definition of BAD or GOOD KARMAs?

O.K. let us decide as to milk is a vegetarian food or non-veg? Or it is even AMRIT by deciding the definition of Veg. or non-veg. through definition of one's convenience even though everyone knows that milk is not a plant product but an animal product meant for animals kids."
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One way to experience this is to do rehearsal i.e dying while living.
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resonable
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I suppose this is too much knowledge for people seeking answers...they'll not understand really until they happen to read books to get knowledge about RSSB.

Let themself know the basics first.... those who know the meaning behind this line can understand but those who dont, they can try to know by means of BOOKS or SATSANG
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starspeed
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Absolutely right.
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