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yashdada2011
Radha swami ji I am a follower of rada swami now baba ji give answer only for 15 to 25 years old. why ?
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07121993
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Radha Soamiji our beloved has kept this age bar of 15 to 25 because HE wants to create culture of sprituality in minds of Teenagers.
Above 25 we are capable enough to understand everything still we fail to follow sayings of our Dearest BABAJI.
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yashdada2011
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I am above 25. I am fail for understand some thing who give answer.
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susingh
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It is not understood as to why the age, meant for attaining higher level of education for a best carrier, is being considered for spirituality at all?

The age, above 75 years, is only meant for SANYAAS OR spirituality, when one is free from all worldly liabilities, having served the GOD's creation to one's full satisfaction, more so when the progress in spirituality does not have any targets with any certainty.

Here is a real story to reveal the purpose and duties of a GURU!

In the Ashram where all four sons, of king DASHRATH, were getting education from guru Vashishta. In the beginning of the session, GURU clarified to Ram by asking, “ Ram tell me as to why students come to GURUKUL?”

Ram to GURU, “ SHAASTRA AUR SHASTRA KI SHIKSHA PAANE”

GURU VASHISHTA TO RAM, “GURUKUL MEIN SHISHYA KE SAMBANDH?”

RAM, “MAATRA GURU AUR SHISHYA KE”

GURU TO RAM,“SHISHA KA PAD?”

RAM, “MAATRA SHISHYA KA”

GURU TO RAM,” TO PHIR KYON GURU MAATA KE SAATH PUTRA AUR
MAATA JAISE SAMBANDH STHAPIT KAR RAHE HO? KYON BHOJAN KARNE SE PAHLE EK NIVALA GURU MATA KE HAATHON SE KHATE HO? KYON UN SE LORI SUNE BINA TUMHEN NEEND NAHIN AATI RAM? AAP YAHAN PAR SHIKSHA AUR SHAKTI PRAPT KARNE AAYE HO YA APNI DURBALTA KO SEHLANE? IS GURUKUL MEIN KEVAL SHISHYA HE REH SAKTE HAIN RAM, AYODHYA KE RAJKUMAR NAHIN.”

RAM BOWS HIS HEAD TO GURU VASHISHTA, “ GURUDEV, DHIKKAAR HAI US SHISHYA PAR, JO APNE GURU KE KRODH KA KAARAN BANE, JAANE ANJAANE MEIN, IS GURUKUL KAA ANUSHASHAN TODNE KE LIYE MAIN AAP SE KHYMA MAANGTA HOON.”

GURU TO RAM, “UTHHO RAM, TUMHEN AANE VALI PIDI KE LIYE GURU AUR SHISHYA KE SAMBANDHON KAA UDHARAN BANANA HAI, UNHEN YEH SIKHANA HAI KI YADI ISHWAR AUR GURU DONO SAAMNE KHADE HON TO PEHLE GURU LO PRANAAM KARO, APNE AAP KO PEHCHANO RAM, APNE AANE KA KAARAN KABHI MAT BHOOLO,”

RAM to GURU, “GURUDEV,AAP JAISE GURU KE HOTE HUE MAIN APNE MAARG SE KABHI NAHIN BHATKUN GAA.”

GURU MAA TO GURU VASHISHTA,“GURUDEV, AAP RAM KO KYO DAAT RAHE THHE?”

GURU to GURU MAA, “YADI PATHHAR KO TARAASH KE MURTI BANANA HO TO US PAR PRHAAR KARNA HE PADTA HAI. HUM APNE SHISHYON KO DURBAL NAHIN, KARTVYA MEIN KATHOR BANANA CHAHTE HAIN”
GURUMA to GURUJI,”KARTVAYA KATHOR BANAYEN, KINTU HIRDYA KATHOR TO NAA BANAYEN.EK RAJA KE HIRDYA MEIN BHAVNAYEN NAA HON, TO VOH PRAJA KI PEEDA KAISE SAMJHE GAA? JAISE PATHHRON PAR BAARISH KAA KOI PRABHAAV NAHIN PADTA, VAISE EK KATHOR HIRDYA PAD KISI KE AASOON KAA KYA PRABHAAV PADEGA, MAHARISHI?

GURU TO GURU MAA, “AAPNE TO EK GURU KO HE SHIKSHIT KAR DIYA, AAP NE THEEK KAHA, YADI EK RAAJA KE HIRDYA KE DIL MEIN BHAVNA HE NAHIN HOGI, TO BHALA VOH APNI PRAJA KE DUKH KO KAISE SAMJHEGA? AYODYA KE IN RAAJ KUMARON KO SHASTRA AUR SHAASTRA VIDYA HUM DEGE KINTU UN KE HIRDYA MEIN KOMAL BHAVANON KO JIVANT KARNE KAA UTTARDAYITVA HUM AAP KO SAUPTE HAIN.”

At the end of training in GURUKUL/AASHRAM, on asking by GURU VASHISHTA, Ram said “During our stay in the Aashram we have learned that (i) SADA SACH KAHO SACH KE MAARG PAR CHALO ANTIM VIJAY SADA SACH KEE HE HOTI HAI, (II) KARTVYA KA SADA PAALAN KARO, JAISE EK RAJA KA DHARM HAI PRAJA KA PALAN, PITA KE MAAN KEE RAKHSHA KARNA EK PUTRA KA DHARM HAI, (III) SVADHYAYE MEIN LAGE RAHO, SVYAM KO PADO/JAANO AUR APNE DOSH AUR KAMIYON KO DOOR KARTE RAHO & LASTLY(IV) APNE MATA, PITA AUR GURUJANO KO DEVTA SAMAJH KAR UNKA SAMMAAN KARO. MOKSH AUR MUKTI, HAVAN YA YAGYA/POOJA MEIN NAA DHOOND KAR, YADI UN KE CHARNO MEIN DHOONDO GE TOO ZARROR SAFAL HO JAOGE.”

Before leaving the AASHRAM, when disciples offered GURU DKSHNA to GURU VASHISHTA, the reply was simple but great TO ADMIRE,”SANSAAR MEIN APNE KARMON SE KUCHH AISA KAR DIKHAO KI HAMEIN TUM PAR GARV HO, HAMARI SACHCHI GURU DAKSHNA TO YAHI HOGI RAM”

So a real GURU does not ask his disciples for mandatory donation to the extent of 10% of their earnings to RSSB by them as also their time for SEWA etc. and that too for the entire life. GURUKUL/ASHRAMS are not run out of donations of disciples but are run out of funds collected from the public. Similarly GURUS are neither interested in increasing the numbers of disciples nor interested to travel worldwide to open SATSANG centers for the said purpose. The GURU should be interested for upgrading quality of teachings for his disciples instead of increasing their numbers.

Whereas in case of RSSB, GURU is using all modern resources of travel, security as also electronic devices in a selective manner for his benefit alone by ignoring the wishes/requirements of his disciples by denying the use of electronic media for them.


This real story does convey the purpose and duties of a real GURU, who teaches only in GURUKUL and not in SATSANG centers to increase the numbers of devotees/disciples only. Then and only then, a GURU could be treated even above GOD for his disciples.

This story also conveys the stage at which GURU’s teachings are meaningful making it very clear that disciples are not to be kept linked with or dependent upon GURU for his entire life but to display GURU’s teachings through disciples’ own life styles.


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palyal81
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Yes you are correct.
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palyal81
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Dear,
Then what should babaji do in this case, if you are not able to understand.
You have to bring your mind up-to that level to understand.(by listning satsangs).

15-25 years has been elected ,because human between this age can clear any doubt regarding santmat.thats why babaji has publish the books for childrens like,....

"ATMA KA SAFAR"
"FLIGHT OF THE WINDRIDER"( very inetresting)
"EK NOOR TE SAB JAG UPEJEYA"



Above 25 age doesn't means that they are capable to understand santmat.this is the practice which we have to built. babaji can only give the directions to us.

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yashdada2011
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I canot understand what u mean pls type in massage language again.
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yashdada2011
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Dear
maine satang mai buhut bar suna hai
9 darwaje 9 dar fike ras 10ve amrit cavije
But in book baitee and parmarthi shabad
(sant charn dass says )

dason dware mel he sab gandam ganda.
Which statement true?
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palyal81
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Oh ho,

You are so confused dear.

Listen dear.

Nau darwaze nave dar phikke, ras amrit dasme vich vijje.
means jo hamare sharir ke nau(9) darwaze hei,
(2 eyes,2ears,mouth,nose nostriles,& two holes lower part of body). inn 9 dwaro mei kuch nahi hei, sab bhull bhalliya he hei.KAAL ka samrajya hei. jo DASWA DWYAR HEI means our forehead sant mahatma yaha se simran karne ke liye kehte hei. kyunki yeh sabse uppar hei. aur yaha se bhi bahut kuch hei aage.(when u will get initiated u will come to know every thing)

now come to next.

dason dware mel he sab gandam ganda...
DASON DWARE MEL HEI.BAKI SAB NICH GANDA HEI.here dason dwar does not include the tenth door also.i does't means the tenth door is dirty.beause ITNE JANAM HAM GURU YA RABB SE DURR RAHE AB USSE MILNA HEI,PAR KESE MILE? Hamne dason dwar GANDA KAR RAKHA HEI GANDE GANDE KARM KAR K.AB ISKO SAF KARNA HE BHAJN SIMRANE SE. at the tenth door you can meet the shabda rup guru.
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kajee
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Dear
pls read the book carefully, he is saying dason (mean all the ten dwar) dwar mail( dirty , ganda) hai
sab gandam ganda ( means every thing is waste , of no use)
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palyal81
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Sorry dear, I was not getting the exact words to explain. caz this is very deep concept.

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starspeed
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I checked stall. There is no such book named "baitee and parmarthi shabad". Can you tell the actual name of book?
Also tell me the page number, from which you are referring this shabad.
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palyal81
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Star speed ji,

I think he is trying to say " BAINTI AUR PRATHNA KE SHABD"

dason dware mail hei, sab gandam ganda. bani of sant charan das ji, page no.27 (vani no 2) line 3.


I have tried to clear the meaning of the same.
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kajee
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yes palyal81 ji same book
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starspeed
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Thanks for the link.
From what i have seen, this text in not in common hindi. Instead it seems to be from other dialects maybe Avadhi, Braj, or Bhojpuri. Don't confuse it with hindi. In hindi, we usually term 'ganda' as 'bad', but that doesn't seem to be the case here.
I highly recommend you to read the english version of this book instead, if you want to derive the exact meaning from it.
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Victoriaboo143
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Do u no anything about ancient ghana ?
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palyal81
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I think, it is the place of trading were gold or salt were send to other regions ,exactly not known , is in't ??? if so , then what is the link with this concept.??
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