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The Old English were the descendants of the settlers who came to Ireland
Ireland

Ireland is the List of islands by area in Europe, and the twentieth-largest island in the world. It lies to the north-west of continental Europe and is surrounded by hundreds of islands and islet....
 from Wales
Wales

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, Normandy
Normandy

Normandy is a geographical region corresponding to the former Duchy of Normandy. It is situated along the coast of France south of the English Channel between Brittany and Picardy and comprises territory in northern France and the Channel Islands....
 and England
England

native_name =|conventional_long_name = England|common_name = England|image_flag = Flag of England.svg|image_coat = England COA.svg|symbol_type = Royal Coat of Arms...
 after the Norman invasion of Ireland
Norman Invasion of Ireland

The Norman invasion of Ireland was a Norman military expedition to Ireland that took place on 1 May 1169 at the behest of Dermot MacMurrough , the King of Leinster....
 in 1169-71. Many of the Old English became assimilated into Irish society over the centuries and their nobility were effectively the ruling class in the land up to the 16th century. Some were dispossessed, however, in the political and religious conflicts during and after the Tudor re-conquest of Ireland
Tudor re-conquest of Ireland

The Tudor re-conquest of Ireland took place under the England Tudor dynasty during the 16th century. Following a failed rebellion against the crown by the FitzGerald in the 1530s, Henry VIII of England was declared King of Ireland by statute of the Irish parliament, with the aim of restoring such central authority as had been lost throughout...
 in the 16th and 17th centuries, largely due to their continued adherence to the Catholic
Roman Catholic Church

The Roman Catholic Church, officially known as the Catholic Church is the world's largest Christianity Ecclesia , representing over half of all Christians and one-sixth of the world population....
 religion.






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The Old English were the descendants of the settlers who came to Ireland
Ireland

Ireland is the List of islands by area in Europe, and the twentieth-largest island in the world. It lies to the north-west of continental Europe and is surrounded by hundreds of islands and islet....
 from Wales
Wales

native_name = Cymru|conventional_long_name = Wales|common_name = Wales|image_flag = Flag of Wales 2.svg|national_motto = ...
, Normandy
Normandy

Normandy is a geographical region corresponding to the former Duchy of Normandy. It is situated along the coast of France south of the English Channel between Brittany and Picardy and comprises territory in northern France and the Channel Islands....
 and England
England

native_name =|conventional_long_name = England|common_name = England|image_flag = Flag of England.svg|image_coat = England COA.svg|symbol_type = Royal Coat of Arms...
 after the Norman invasion of Ireland
Norman Invasion of Ireland

The Norman invasion of Ireland was a Norman military expedition to Ireland that took place on 1 May 1169 at the behest of Dermot MacMurrough , the King of Leinster....
 in 1169-71. Many of the Old English became assimilated into Irish society over the centuries and their nobility were effectively the ruling class in the land up to the 16th century. Some were dispossessed, however, in the political and religious conflicts during and after the Tudor re-conquest of Ireland
Tudor re-conquest of Ireland

The Tudor re-conquest of Ireland took place under the England Tudor dynasty during the 16th century. Following a failed rebellion against the crown by the FitzGerald in the 1530s, Henry VIII of England was declared King of Ireland by statute of the Irish parliament, with the aim of restoring such central authority as had been lost throughout...
 in the 16th and 17th centuries, largely due to their continued adherence to the Catholic
Roman Catholic Church

The Roman Catholic Church, officially known as the Catholic Church is the world's largest Christianity Ecclesia , representing over half of all Christians and one-sixth of the world population....
 religion. The so called "New English
Anglo-Irish

"Anglo-Irish" was a term used historically to describe a privileged social class in Ireland, whose members were the descendants and successors of the Protestant Ascendancy, mostly belonging to the Anglicanism Church of Ireland, which was the established church of Ireland until 1871, or to a lesser extent one of the English Dissenters churches...
" Protestant settlers had largely replaced them as the governing and landowning class of Ireland by 1700.

The name Old English was coined in the late sixteenth century to describe the section of the above community which lived within the heart of English-ruled Ireland, the Pale
The Pale

The Pale or the English Pale , was the English-controlled part of Ireland that had reduced by the late 1400s to an area along the east coast stretching from Dalkey, south of Dublin, to the garrison town of Dundalk north of Drogheda....
.

In medieval Ireland

Old English was the term applied from the 1580s to those Irish descended on the patrilineal side from a wave of late medieval Norman, French
France

France , officially the French Republic , is a country whose Metropolitan France is located in Western Europe and that also comprises various Overseas departments and territories of France....
, Welsh
Wales

native_name = Cymru|conventional_long_name = Wales|common_name = Wales|image_flag = Flag of Wales 2.svg|national_motto = ...
, English
England

native_name =|conventional_long_name = England|common_name = England|image_flag = Flag of England.svg|image_coat = England COA.svg|symbol_type = Royal Coat of Arms...
, Breton
Brittany

Brittany is a former independent Celtic nations monarchy and duchy, now incorporated into France. It is also, more generally, the name of the cultural area whose limits correspond to the historic province and independent duchy....
 and Flemish
Flanders

Flanders is a geographical region located in parts of present-day Belgium, France, and the Netherlands. Over the course of history, the geographical territory that was called "Flanders" has varied....
 settlers who went to Ireland
Ireland

Ireland is the List of islands by area in Europe, and the twentieth-largest island in the world. It lies to the north-west of continental Europe and is surrounded by hundreds of islands and islet....
 to claim territory and lands in the wake of the Norman conquest of Ireland in 1169-72. London-based Norman-English governments expected the "Old English" to promote English rule in Ireland, through the use of the English language, law, trade, currency, social customs and farming methods. The realisation of this aim was most advanced in the Pale and the walled towns.

The "Old English" community in Ireland was never monolithic. In some areas, especially in the Pale around Dublin
Dublin

Dublin is both the largest city and capital of Republic of Ireland. It is located near the midpoint of Ireland's east coast, at the mouth of the River Liffey and at the centre of the Dublin Region....
, south county Wexford
County Wexford

County Wexford is a maritime county in the southeast of Republic of Ireland, in the province of Leinster. It takes its name from the principal town, Wexford, founded by Vikings and named by them 'Waesfjord', meaning 'inlet or bay of the mud-flats' in the Old Norse language....
, Kilkenny
County Kilkenny

County Kilkenny is a landlocked counties of Ireland in Republic of Ireland. The county takes its name from the Cities in Ireland of Kilkenny and has a population of 87,558....
, Limerick
County Limerick

County Limerick is a county in the province of Munster, located in the mid-west of Ireland with County Clare to the north, County Cork to the south, County Kerry to the west and County Tipperary to the east....
 and Cork
County Cork

County Cork is the most southerly and the largest of the modern counties of Republic of Ireland. Cork is nicknamed "The Rebel County", as a result of the support of the townsmen of Cork in 1491 for Perkin Warbeck, a pretender to the throne of England during the Wars of the Roses....
, the term referred to relatively urbanised communities, who spoke the English language
English language

English is a West Germanic language that originated in Anglo-Saxon England and has lingua franca status in many parts of the world as a result of the military, economic, scientific, political and cultural influence of the British Empire in the 18th, 19th and early 20th centuries and that of the United States from the mid 20th century onwa...
 (though sometimes in arcane local dialects like Yola
Yola language

Yola is an Extinct language West Germanic language formerly spoken in Ireland. A branch of Middle English language, it evolved separately among the English who followed the Normans barons Richard de Clare, 2nd Earl of Pembroke and Robert Fitz-Stephen to eastern Ireland in 1169....
), used English law and lived in a manner similar to that found in England. However, in much of the rest of Ireland, the term referred to a thin layer of landowners and nobility, who ruled over Gaelic Irish
Gaels

The Gaels are an ethno-linguistic group which originated in Ireland and subsequently spread to Scotland and the Isle of Man. They are speakers of the Goidelic languages languages ? Irish language, Scottish Gaelic and Manx language....
 freeholders and tenants.

In the provinces, the Old English (known as Gaill - foreigners - in the Irish language
Irish language

Irish , also known as Irish Gaelic, is a Goidelic languages of the Indo-European language family, originating in Ireland and historically spoken by the Irish people....
), were at times indistinguishable from the surrounding Gaelic lords and chieftains. Dynasties such as the Fitzgeralds
Knight of Glin

The Knight of Glin, is a Inheritance title in the Fitzgeralds of County Limerick since the early 14th century. The family is a branch of the Normans FitzGerald or Geraldines, Earls of Desmond, who were granted extensive lands in County Limerick by the Duke of Normandy by way of conquest....
, Butlers and Burkes adopted the native language
Irish language

Irish , also known as Irish Gaelic, is a Goidelic languages of the Indo-European language family, originating in Ireland and historically spoken by the Irish people....
, legal system
Brehon Laws

Early Irish law refers to the statutes that governed everyday life and politics in Ireland during the Gaelic Ireland. They were partially eclipsed by the Norman invasion of Ireland of 1169, but underwent a resurgence in the 13th century, and survived in parallel to English law over the majority of the island until the 17th century....
, and other customs such as fostering and intermarriage with the Gaelic Irish and the patronage of Irish poetry
Irish poetry

The history of Irish poetry includes the poetries of two languages, one in Irish language and the other in English language. The complex interplay between these two traditions, and between both of them and other poetries in English, has produced a body of work that is both rich in variety and difficult to categorise....
 and music. Such people became regarded as more Irish than the Irish themselves
More Irish than the Irish themselves

"More Irish than the Irish themselves" was a phrase used in the Middle Ages to describe the phenomenon whereby foreigners who came to Ireland attached to invasion forces tended to be subsumed into Irish social and cultural society, adopted the Irish language, Irish culture, style of dress and a wholesale identification with all things Irish....
 as a result of this process (see also Norman Ireland
Norman Ireland

The later medieval period in Ireland was dominated by the Cambro-Norman Norman invasion of Ireland of the country in 1171. Previously, Ireland had seen intermittent warfare between provincial kingdoms over the position of High King of Ireland....
). The most accurate name for the community throughout the late medieval period was Hiberno-Norman
Hiberno-Norman

The term Hiberno-Norman is used of those Normans lords who settled in Ireland, admitting little if any real fealty to the Anglo-Norman settlers in England....
, a name which captures the distinctive blended culture which this community created and operated within. In an effort to halt the "Gaelicization
Gaelicization

Gaelicization or Gaelicisation is the act or process of making something Gaels, or gaining characteristics of the Gaels. The Gaels are an ethno-linguistic group who are traditionally viewed as having spread from Ireland to Scotland and the Isle of Man....
" of the Old English community, the Irish Parliament passed the Statutes of Kilkenny
Statutes of Kilkenny

The Statutes of Kilkenny were a series of thirty-five acts passed at Kilkenny in 1367, aiming to curb the decline of the Hiberno-Norman Lordship of Ireland....
 in 1367, which among other things, banned the use of the Irish language, wearing of Irish clothes and banned Gaelic Irish people from living within walled towns.

There was no religious division in medieval Ireland, beyond the requirement that English-born prelates should run the Irish church. However after the 1530s most of the pre-16th century inhabitants continued their allegiance to Roman Catholicism, even after the Protestant Reformation
Protestant Reformation

The Protestant Reformation was a Christian reform movement in Europe. It is thought to have begun in 1517 with Martin Luther's Ninety-Five Theses and may be considered to have ended with the Peace of Westphalia in 1648....
 in England.

Tudor re-conquest

In contrast, the New English, the wave of settlers who came to Ireland from the Elizabethan era onwards during the Tudor re-conquest of Ireland
Tudor re-conquest of Ireland

The Tudor re-conquest of Ireland took place under the England Tudor dynasty during the 16th century. Following a failed rebellion against the crown by the FitzGerald in the 1530s, Henry VIII of England was declared King of Ireland by statute of the Irish parliament, with the aim of restoring such central authority as had been lost throughout...
, kept their English identity, religious, social and cultural traditions and unlike the Normans and the Old English, remained distinct for the first few generations. The new settlers were more self consciously English and largely (though not entirely) Protestant and most looked on Ireland as a conquered country that needed to be "civilised" and converted to the Protestant religion. The poet Edmund Spenser
Edmund Spenser

Edmund Spenser was an important England poet best known for The Faerie Queene, an epic poem celebrating, through fantastical allegory, the Tudor dynasty and Elizabeth I....
 was one of the chief advocates of this view. He argued in "A View on the Present State of Ireland" (1595), that a failure to fully conquer Ireland had led previous generations of English settlers to become corrupted by the native Irish culture. To the "New English", many of the Old English were "degenerate", having adopted Irish customs and retaining the Catholic religion.

It was their exclusion from the government of Ireland, on the grounds of their religious dissidence, in the course of the 16th century that alienated the Old English from the state and eventually propelled them into a common identity with the Gaelic Irish as Irish Catholics. The first confrontation between the Old English and the English government in Ireland came with the cess
Cess

The term cess generally means a tax. It is a term formerly more particularly applied to local taxation, in which sense it is still the official term used in Ireland; otherwise, it has been superseded by "rate." In India it is applied, with the qualifying word prefix, to any taxation, such as irrigation-cess, educational-cess, and the like....
 crisis of 1556–1583. During this period, the Pale community resisted paying for the English army in Ireland to put down a string of revolts ending with the Desmond Rebellions
Desmond Rebellions

The Desmond Rebellions occurred in between 1569-1573 and 1579-1583 in Munster in southern Ireland.. They were rebellions of the Earl of Desmond dynasty—the Fitzgerald family or Geraldines and their allies against the efforts of the Elizabethan Era English government to extend their control over the province of Munster....
 (1569-73 and 1579-83). The term "Old English" was coined at this time, as the Pale community emphasised their English identity and loyalty to the crown, while at the same time refusing to cooperate with the wishes of the English Lord Deputy of Ireland
Lord Deputy of Ireland

The Lord Deputy was the King's representative and head of the Irish executive during the Kingdom of Ireland.*Gerald FitzGerald, 8th Earl of Kildare ...
. Originally, the conflict was a civil issue, as the Palesmen objected to paying new taxes that had not first been approved by them in the Parliament of Ireland
Parliament of Ireland

The Parliament of Ireland was a legislature that existed in Dublin from 1297 until 1800. It comprised two chambers: the Irish House of Commons and the Irish House of Lords....
.

However, the dispute also took on a religious dimension, especially after 1570, when Elizabeth I of England
Elizabeth I of England

Elizabeth I was List of English monarchs and Queen of Ireland from 17 November 1558 until her death. Sometimes called The Virgin Queen, Gloriana, or Good Queen Bess, Elizabeth was the fifth and last monarch of the House of Tudor....
 was excommunicated by the papal bull
Papal bull

A Papal bull is a particular type of letters patent or charter issued by a pope. It is named after the bulla that was appended to the end to authenticate it....
 Regnans in Excelsis
Regnans in Excelsis

File:El Greco 050.jpgRegnans in Excelsis was a papal bull issued on February 25, 1570, by Pope Pius V declaring "Elizabeth I of England, the pretended Queen of England and the servant of crime" to be a heresy and releasing all her subjects from any allegiance to her and excommunicating any that obeyed her orders....
. In reply, Elizabeth banned the Jesuits. Rebels such as James Fitzmaurice Fitzgerald
James FitzMaurice FitzGerald

James Fitzmaurice Fitzgerald, a member of the 16th century ruling FitzGerald dynasty in the province of Munster in Ireland, rebelled against the crown authority of Queen Elizabeth I of England in response to the onset of the Tudor re-conquest of Ireland and was deemed an archtraitor....
 (of the Hiberno-Norman Desmond dynasty) portrayed their rebellion as a "Holy War" and indeed received money and troops from the Papacy. In the Second Desmond Rebellion
Second Desmond Rebellion

The Second Desmond rebellion was the more widespread and bloody of the two Desmond Rebellions launched by the Fitzgerald dynasty of County Desmond in Munster, southern Ireland, against English rule in Ireland....
 (1579-83), a prominent Pale Lord, James Eustace, Viscount of Baltinglass joined the rebels for religious reasons. Before the rebellion was over, several hundred Old English Palesmen had been hanged, either for rebellion or because they were suspected of rebellion because of their religion. This episode marked an important break between the Pale and the English Government and between the Old and New English.

In the subsequent Nine Years War (1594–1603) the Pale and the Old English towns remained loyal to the English Crown during another rebellion. It was the re-organisation of the English government in Ireland along Protestant lines in the early 17th century that eventually severed the main political ties between the Old English and England itself, particularly following the Gunpowder Plot
Gunpowder Plot

The Gunpowder Conspiracy of 1605, or the Powder Treason or Gunpowder Plot, as it was then known, was a failed assassination attempt by a group of provincial English Roman Catholic Church against King James I of England....
 in 1605. Firstly, in 1609, Catholics were banned from serving in public office in Ireland. In 1613, the constituencies of the Irish Parliament were changed so that the New English Protestants would be a majority in it. Thirdly, in the 1630s many of the Old English landowning class had to reconfirm their land titles, with some paying fines or losing land in the process (see Plantations of Ireland
Plantations of Ireland

Plantations in 16th and 17th century Ireland were established throughout the country by the confiscation of lands occupied by Gaelic clans and Hiberno-Norman dynasties, but principally in the provinces of Munster and Ulster....
).

The political response of the Old Community was to appeal directly to the King of England, first James I
James I of England

James VI and I was List of monarchs of Scotland as James VI, and List of English monarchs and King of Ireland as James I. He ruled in Kingdom of Scotland as James VI from 24 July 1567, when he was only one year old, succeeding his mother Mary I of Scotland....
 and then Charles I
Charles I of England

Charles I was List of English monarchs, List of monarchs of Scotland and King of Ireland from 27 March 1625 until his capital punishment on 30 January 1649....
 for a package of reforms, known as The Graces
The Graces

The Graces may refer to:* Charites of Greek mythology* The Graces * The Graces a series of proposed reforms in 17th century Ireland....
 including religious toleration and civil equality to Catholics in return for increased taxes. However, on several occasions in 1620s and 1630s, they agreed to pay the higher taxes, only for the monarch or his viceroy to defer some concessions. Such Old English writers as Geoffrey Keating
Geoffrey Keating

Seathr?n C?itinn, known in English language as Geoffrey Keating, was a 17th century Ireland Roman Catholic Church priest, poet and historian....
 were by then arguing, for example in the Irish-language Foras Feasa ar Éirinn (1634) that the true identity of the Old English was Catholic and Irish, rather than English.

Dispossession and defeat

In 1641, many of the Old English community made a decisive break with their past as loyal subjects by joining the Irish Rebellion of 1641
Irish Rebellion of 1641

The Irish Rebellion of 1641 began as an attempted coup d'?tat by Irish Roman Catholic Church gentry, but developed into inter communal violence between native Irish people and England and Scotland Protestant settlers, starting a conflict known as the Irish Confederate Wars....
. Many factors influenced the decision of the Old English to join the rebellion, among them fear of the rebels and fear of government reprisals against all Catholics. However, the main long term reason was a desire to reverse the anti-Catholic policies that had been pursued by the English authorities over the previous 40 years in Ireland. Nevertheless, despite their formation of an Irish government in Confederate Ireland
Confederate Ireland

Confederate Ireland refers to the period of Irish self-government between the Irish Rebellion of 1641 and the Cromwellian conquest of Ireland in 1649....
, the Old English identity was still an important division within the Irish Catholic community. During the Irish Confederate Wars
Irish Confederate Wars

This article is concerned with the military history of Ireland from 1641-53. For the political context of this conflict, see Confederate Ireland....
 (1641-53), the Old English were often accused by the Gaelic Irish of being too ready to sign a treaty with Charles I of England
Charles I of England

Charles I was List of English monarchs, List of monarchs of Scotland and King of Ireland from 27 March 1625 until his capital punishment on 30 January 1649....
 at the expense of the interests of Irish landowners and the Catholic religion. The ensuing Cromwellian conquest of Ireland
Cromwellian conquest of Ireland

The Cromwellian conquest of Ireland refers to the re-conquest of Ireland by the forces of the English Parliament, led by Oliver Cromwell during the Wars of the Three Kingdoms....
 (1649-53), saw the ultimate defeat of the Catholic cause and the dispossession of the Old English nobility. While this cause was briefly revived before the Williamite war in Ireland
Williamite war in Ireland

The Williamite War in Ireland, also known as the Jacobite War in Ireland and in Ireland as Cogadh an D? R? or The War of the Two Kings, was the opening conflict following the deposition of King James II of England in 1688 when he attempted to regain the throne of his Three Kingdoms from his daughter Mary II of England who repl...
 (1689-91), by 1700, the Protestant descendants of the New English had become the dominant class in the country, along with the Old English families (and men of Gaelic origin such as William Conolly
William Conolly

William Conolly , also known as Speaker Conolly, was an Ireland politician and landowner....
) who chose to comply with the new realities.

In the course of the eighteenth century, the old distinction between Old English and Gaelic Irish Catholics faded away, as more of the country became Anglicized and social divisions were defined, against the backdrop of the Penal Laws (Ireland)
Penal Laws (Ireland)

The Penal Laws in Ireland refers to a series of laws imposed under British rule that sought to discriminate against Roman Catholics and Protestant dissenters in favour of the established Church of Ireland....
 almost solely in sectarian terms of Catholic and Protestant, rather than ethnic ones.

However, changing religion was not banned, and many Old English like Edmund Burke
Edmund Burke

Edmund Burke was an Irish statesman, author, orator, political theorist, and philosophy who, after relocating to Great Britain, served for many years in the British House of Commons as a member of the British Whig Party party....
 were Protestants but with a sympathy and understanding for the unfair position of Catholics in his day. Others in the landed gentry
Landed gentry

Landed gentry is a term traditionally applied in United Kingdom to those people of a certain type and education who possess land in the form of country estates, often made up of tenanted farms....
 like the viscounts Dillon
Viscount Dillon

Viscount Dillon, of Costello-Gallen in the County of Mayo, is a title in the Peerage of Ireland.The title was created in 1622 for Theobald Dillon, Lord President of Connacht....
 and the lords Dunsany were Old English families who converted religion to save their lands and titles. The Old English FitzGerald dukes of Leinster
Duke of Leinster

The Duke of Leinster is Ireland's premier peer....
 held the premier title in the Irish House of Lords
Irish House of Lords

The Irish House of Lords was the upper house of the Parliament of Ireland that existed from medi?val times until 1800. It was abolished along with the Irish House of Commons by the Act of Union 1800....
 when it was abolished in 1800; the republican Lord Edward Fitzgerald
Lord Edward FitzGerald

Lord Edward FitzGerald was an Irish aristocrat and revolutionary. He was the fifth son of the James FitzGerald, 1st Duke of Leinster and the Lady Emily Lennox and, was born at Carton House, near Dublin....
 was a brother of the second duke.

Collective identity of the Old English

Historians disagree about what to call the Old English community at different times in its existence and how to define this community's sense of collective identity.

Irish historian Edward MacLysaght
Edward MacLysaght

Edward MacLysaght was one of the foremost genealogists of twentieth century Ireland. His numerous books on Irish people surnames built upon the work of Patrick Woulfe's Irish Names and Surnames and made him well known to all those researching their family past....
 makes the distinction in his Surnames of Ireland book between 'Hiberno-Norman
Hiberno-Norman

The term Hiberno-Norman is used of those Normans lords who settled in Ireland, admitting little if any real fealty to the Anglo-Norman settlers in England....
' and 'Anglo-Norman
Anglo-Norman

The Anglo-Normans were mainly the descendants of the Normans who ruled England following the conquest by William I of England in 1066, although a few Normans were already in England before the conquest....
' surnames. This sums up the fundamental difference between "Queen's English Rebels" and the Loyal Lieges. The Geraldines of Desmond
County Desmond

Kingdom of Desmond was a historic kingdom, earldom and Counties of Ireland located on the country's south-western coast. It was partitioned between County Cork and County Kerry in 1606....
 or the Burkes of Connacht
Connacht

Connacht is the western Provinces of Ireland of Ireland, comprising counties County Galway, County Leitrim, County Mayo, County Roscommon, County Sligo....
, for instance, could not accurately be described as "Old English" as that was not their political and cultural world. The Butlers of Ormond on the other hand could not accurately be described as 'Hiberno-Norman' in their political outlook and alliances, especially after they married into the English royal family.

Some historians now refer to them as "Cambro-Norman
Cambro-Norman

Cambro-Norman is a term used for Normans knights who settled in southern Wales after the Norman conquest of England in 1066. Some historians suggest that the term is to be preferred to Anglo-Norman for the Normans who invaded Ireland after 1170 ? many of whom originated in Wales....
s", and Seán Duffy of Trinity College, Dublin
Trinity College, Dublin

Trinity College, Dublin , corporately designated as the Provost, Fellows and Scholars of the College of the Holy and Undivided Trinity of Queen Elizabeth near Dublin, was founded in 1592 by Queen Elizabeth I of England as the "mother of a university", and is the only constituent residential college of the University of Dublin....
 invariably uses that term rather than the misleading "Anglo-Norman" (most Normans came via Wales, not England), but after many centuries in Ireland and just a century in Wales or England it seems quite odd that their entire history since 1169 is now known by a description, Old English, which only came in the late sixteenth century.

The earliest known reference to the term, "Old English" community is in the 1580s (Nicholas Canny, Ireland, from Reformation to Restoration). The community of Norman descent prior to then used numerous epithets to describe themselves but it was only as a result of the political crisis of the 1580s that the Old English community emerged. Some contend it is ahistorical to trace a single "Old English" community back to 1169 as the real Old English community was a product of the late sixteenth century in the Pale. Until then identity was much more fluid; it was the administration's policies which created an oppositional and clearly defined Old English community.

Brendan Bradshaw, in his study of the poetry of late sixteenth century Tír Chónaill, points out that in the Irish the Normans were not called Seanghaill ("Old Foreigners") there but rather they were called Fionnghaill and Dubhghaill. He argued in a lecture to the Mícheál Ó Cléirigh
Mícheál Ó Cléirigh

M?che?l ? Cl?irigh was an Ireland chronicler, and chief author of the Annals of the Four Masters, assisted by Peregrine O'Clery, Fergus O'Mulconry, and Peregrine O'Duignan....
 Institute in University College, Dublin that the poets referred to those of Norman stock who were completely hibernicised thus with the purpose of granting them a longer vintage in Ireland that they had (Fionnghaill- Norwegian Vikings; Dubhghaill= Danish Vikings). This follows on from his earlier arguments that the term Éireannaigh as we currently know it also emerged during this period in the poetry books of the Uí Bhroin of Wicklow as a sign of unity between Gaeil and Gaill; he viewed it as a sign of an emerging Irish nationalism
Irish nationalism

Irish nationalism comprises political and social movements and sentiment inspired by a love for Culture of Ireland, Gaelic language and History of Ireland, and a sense of pride in Ireland and the Irish people....
. Breandán Ó Buachalla essentially agreed with him, Tom Dunne and Tom Bartlett were less sure.

See also

  • The Deeds of the Normans in Ireland
    The Deeds of the Normans in Ireland

    The Song of Dermot and the Earl is an Anglo-Norman language chronicle telling how Richard de Clare, 2nd Earl of Pembroke arrived in Ireland in 1170 and the subsequent arrival of Henry II of England....
  • The Tribes of Galway