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In Greek mythology
Greek mythology

Greek mythology is the body of myths and legends belonging to the Ancient Greece concerning their List of Greek mythological figures#Immortals and Greek hero cult, Cosmology#Metaphysical cosmology, and the origins and significance of their own cult and ritual practices....
, Nestor of Gerênia (; gen.: ??st???? Ge??????) was the son of Neleus
Neleus

Neleus was the son of Poseidon and Tyro, brother of Pelias. Tyro was married to Cretheus but loved Enipeus, a river god. She pursued Enipeus, who refused her advances....
 and Chloris
Chloris

There are many stories in Greek mythology about figures named Chloris . Some clearly refer to different characters; other stories may refer to the same Chloris, but disagree on details....
, and the King of Pylos
Pylos

This article is about the Greek geographical feature and town. For the mythological figure see Pylus . For board game see Pylos .Pylos, or P?los , is a large bay and a town on the west coast of the Peloponnese, in the district of Messenia in southern Greece....
. He became king after Heracles
Heracles

In Greek mythology, Heracles or Herakles meaning "glory of Hera", or "Glorious through Hera" Alcides or Alcaeus " was a hero, the son of Zeus and Alcmene, foster son of Amphitryon and great-grandson of Perseus....
 killed Neleus and all of Nestor's brothers and sisters. His wife was either Eurydice
Eurydice of Pylos

In Greek Mythology, Eurydice was the daughter of Clymenus, and wife of Nestor . Their children include Perseus , Peisistratus , Thrasymedes , Pisidice, Polycaste, Stratichus, Aretus, Echephron, and Antilochus....
 or Anaxibia
Anaxibia

Anaxibia is the name of five characters in Greek mythology.*Anaxibia, the daughter of Bias and Iphianassa, and niece of Melampus. She married Pelias, to whom she bore Acastus, Pisidice, Pelopia, Hippothoe, Alcestis, and Medusa....
; their children included Perseus
Perseus

Perseus , the legendary founder of Mycenae and of the Mycenae there, was the first of the mythic heroes of Greek mythology whose exploits in defeating various archaic monsters provided the founding myths in the cult of the Twelve Olympians....
, Peisistratus
Peisistratus (Odyssey)

Peisistratus or Peisistratos or Pisistratus was a figure in Greek mythology, the youngest son of Nestor . He became an intimate friend of Telemachus, son of Odysseus, and travelled with him on his unsuccessful search for his father ....
, Thrasymedes
Thrasymedes (mythology)

You may be looking for Thrasymedes, the sculptor.In Greek mythology Thrasymedes was a participant in the Trojan War. He was from Pylos and was the oldest son of Nestor and Eurydice of Pylos , and the elder brother of Antilochus....
, Pisidice
Pisidice

In Greek mythology, Pisidice was one of four individuals:* a daughter of Pelias.* a daughter of Nestor.* a daughter of Aeolus.* a princess of Methymna....
, Polycaste
Polycaste

In Greek mythology, Polycaste is the daughter of Nestor and Eurydice of Pylos . She bathed Telemachus on his way to Pylos and later married him. They had a son, Persepolis....
, Stratichus
Stratichus

In Greek mythology, Stratichus is the son of Nestor and either Eurydice of Pylos or Anaxibia. He appears in the Odyssey....
, Aretus
Aretus

In Greek mythology, Aretus was one of several characters:#King Aretus, or Ar?t?s of Pylos was a son of Nestor and Eurydice of Pylos . ...
, Echephron
Echephron

Echephron is the name of three characters in Greek mythology.*Echephron, son of Nestor and Eurydice of Pylos .*Echephron, a son of Priam, king of Troy....
 and Antilochus
Antilochus

In Greek mythology, Antilochus was the son of Nestor , king of Pylos. One of the suitors of Helen, he accompanied his father to the Trojan War....
.

Biography
Nestor was an Argonaut
Argonauts

In Greek mythology, the Argonauts were a band of heroes who, in the years before the Trojan War, accompanied Jason to Colchis in his quest to find the Golden Fleece....
, helped fight the centaur
Centaur

In Greek mythology, the centaurs are a race of creatures composed of part human and part horse. In early Attica Pottery of ancient Greece, they are depicted with the torso of a human joined at the waist to the horse's withers, where the horse's neck would be....
s, and participated in the hunt for the Calydonian Boar
Calydonian Boar

The Calydonian Boar is one of the monsters of Greek mythology that had to be overcome by heroes of the Olympian age. Sent by Artemis to ravage the region of Calydon in Aetolia because its king failed to honor her in his rites to the gods, it was killed in the Calydonian Hunt, in which many male heroes took part, but also a powerful wom...
. He and his sons Antilochus
Antilochus

In Greek mythology, Antilochus was the son of Nestor , king of Pylos. One of the suitors of Helen, he accompanied his father to the Trojan War....
 and Thrasymedes
Thrasymedes

This page is on the sculptor Thrasymedes of Paros. For the mythological Greek captain of the Trojan Wars, see Thrasymedes .Thrasymedes of Paros was an Ancient Greece sculptor....
 fought on the side of the Achaeans
Achaeans

The Achaeans is one of the collective names used for the Greeks in Homer's Iliad and Odyssey. The other names are the Danaans and Argives ....
 in the Trojan War
Trojan War

In Greek mythology, the Trojan War was waged against the city of Troy by the Achaeans after Paris of Troy stole Helen from her husband Menelaus, the king of Sparta....
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In Greek mythology
Greek mythology

Greek mythology is the body of myths and legends belonging to the Ancient Greece concerning their List of Greek mythological figures#Immortals and Greek hero cult, Cosmology#Metaphysical cosmology, and the origins and significance of their own cult and ritual practices....
, Nestor of Gerênia (; gen.: ??st???? Ge??????) was the son of Neleus
Neleus

Neleus was the son of Poseidon and Tyro, brother of Pelias. Tyro was married to Cretheus but loved Enipeus, a river god. She pursued Enipeus, who refused her advances....
 and Chloris
Chloris

There are many stories in Greek mythology about figures named Chloris . Some clearly refer to different characters; other stories may refer to the same Chloris, but disagree on details....
, and the King of Pylos
Pylos

This article is about the Greek geographical feature and town. For the mythological figure see Pylus . For board game see Pylos .Pylos, or P?los , is a large bay and a town on the west coast of the Peloponnese, in the district of Messenia in southern Greece....
. He became king after Heracles
Heracles

In Greek mythology, Heracles or Herakles meaning "glory of Hera", or "Glorious through Hera" Alcides or Alcaeus " was a hero, the son of Zeus and Alcmene, foster son of Amphitryon and great-grandson of Perseus....
 killed Neleus and all of Nestor's brothers and sisters. His wife was either Eurydice
Eurydice of Pylos

In Greek Mythology, Eurydice was the daughter of Clymenus, and wife of Nestor . Their children include Perseus , Peisistratus , Thrasymedes , Pisidice, Polycaste, Stratichus, Aretus, Echephron, and Antilochus....
 or Anaxibia
Anaxibia

Anaxibia is the name of five characters in Greek mythology.*Anaxibia, the daughter of Bias and Iphianassa, and niece of Melampus. She married Pelias, to whom she bore Acastus, Pisidice, Pelopia, Hippothoe, Alcestis, and Medusa....
; their children included Perseus
Perseus

Perseus , the legendary founder of Mycenae and of the Mycenae there, was the first of the mythic heroes of Greek mythology whose exploits in defeating various archaic monsters provided the founding myths in the cult of the Twelve Olympians....
, Peisistratus
Peisistratus (Odyssey)

Peisistratus or Peisistratos or Pisistratus was a figure in Greek mythology, the youngest son of Nestor . He became an intimate friend of Telemachus, son of Odysseus, and travelled with him on his unsuccessful search for his father ....
, Thrasymedes
Thrasymedes (mythology)

You may be looking for Thrasymedes, the sculptor.In Greek mythology Thrasymedes was a participant in the Trojan War. He was from Pylos and was the oldest son of Nestor and Eurydice of Pylos , and the elder brother of Antilochus....
, Pisidice
Pisidice

In Greek mythology, Pisidice was one of four individuals:* a daughter of Pelias.* a daughter of Nestor.* a daughter of Aeolus.* a princess of Methymna....
, Polycaste
Polycaste

In Greek mythology, Polycaste is the daughter of Nestor and Eurydice of Pylos . She bathed Telemachus on his way to Pylos and later married him. They had a son, Persepolis....
, Stratichus
Stratichus

In Greek mythology, Stratichus is the son of Nestor and either Eurydice of Pylos or Anaxibia. He appears in the Odyssey....
, Aretus
Aretus

In Greek mythology, Aretus was one of several characters:#King Aretus, or Ar?t?s of Pylos was a son of Nestor and Eurydice of Pylos . ...
, Echephron
Echephron

Echephron is the name of three characters in Greek mythology.*Echephron, son of Nestor and Eurydice of Pylos .*Echephron, a son of Priam, king of Troy....
 and Antilochus
Antilochus

In Greek mythology, Antilochus was the son of Nestor , king of Pylos. One of the suitors of Helen, he accompanied his father to the Trojan War....
.

Biography


Nestor was an Argonaut
Argonauts

In Greek mythology, the Argonauts were a band of heroes who, in the years before the Trojan War, accompanied Jason to Colchis in his quest to find the Golden Fleece....
, helped fight the centaur
Centaur

In Greek mythology, the centaurs are a race of creatures composed of part human and part horse. In early Attica Pottery of ancient Greece, they are depicted with the torso of a human joined at the waist to the horse's withers, where the horse's neck would be....
s, and participated in the hunt for the Calydonian Boar
Calydonian Boar

The Calydonian Boar is one of the monsters of Greek mythology that had to be overcome by heroes of the Olympian age. Sent by Artemis to ravage the region of Calydon in Aetolia because its king failed to honor her in his rites to the gods, it was killed in the Calydonian Hunt, in which many male heroes took part, but also a powerful wom...
. He and his sons Antilochus
Antilochus

In Greek mythology, Antilochus was the son of Nestor , king of Pylos. One of the suitors of Helen, he accompanied his father to the Trojan War....
 and Thrasymedes
Thrasymedes

This page is on the sculptor Thrasymedes of Paros. For the mythological Greek captain of the Trojan Wars, see Thrasymedes .Thrasymedes of Paros was an Ancient Greece sculptor....
 fought on the side of the Achaeans
Achaeans

The Achaeans is one of the collective names used for the Greeks in Homer's Iliad and Odyssey. The other names are the Danaans and Argives ....
 in the Trojan War
Trojan War

In Greek mythology, the Trojan War was waged against the city of Troy by the Achaeans after Paris of Troy stole Helen from her husband Menelaus, the king of Sparta....
. Though Nestor was already old when the war began, believed to be about 110, he was noted for his bravery and speaking abilities. In the Iliad
ILiad

The iLiad is an electronic handheld device, or e-book device, which can be used for document reading and editing. Like the Sony Reader or Amazon Kindle, the iLiad makes use of an electronic paper display....
 he often gives advice to the younger warriors, and advises Agamemnon
Agamemnon

In Greek mythology, Agamemnon / is the son of King Atreus of Mycenae and Queen Aerope, the brother of Menelaus and the husband of Clytemnestra; different mythological versions make him the king either of Mycenae or of Argos....
 and Achilles
Achilles

In Greek mythology, Achilles was a Greeks hero of the Trojan War, the central character and the greatest warrior of Homer's Iliad, which takes for its theme ; the Wrath of Achilles....
 to reconcile. He is too old to engage in combat himself, but he leads the Pylian
Pylos

This article is about the Greek geographical feature and town. For the mythological figure see Pylus . For board game see Pylos .Pylos, or P?los , is a large bay and a town on the west coast of the Peloponnese, in the district of Messenia in southern Greece....
 troops, riding his chariot, and one of his horses is killed by an arrow shot by Paris
Paris (mythology)

Paris , the son of Priam, king of Troy, appears in a number of Greek mythology. Probably the best-known was his elopement with Helen, queen of Sparta, this being one of the immediate causes of the Trojan War....
. He also had a solid gold
Gold

Gold is a chemical element with the symbol Au and atomic number 79. It is a highly sought-after precious metal, having been used as money, as a store of value, in jewelry, in sculpture, and for ornamentation since the beginning of recorded history....
 shield. Homer
Homer

Homer is traditionally held to be the author of the ancient Greek language epic poems the Iliad and the Odyssey, as well as of the Homeric Hymns....
 frequently calls him by the epithet
Epithets in Homer

A characteristic of Homer's style is an epithet, as in "rosy-fingered dawn" or "swift-footed Achilles." These epithets were metric stop-gaps as well as mnemonic devices for the aoidos ? both, signs of the deep oral tradition that preceded the written codification of the Iliad and Odyssey....
 "the Gerenian horseman." At the funeral games of Patroclus
Patroclus

In Greek mythology, as recorded in the Iliad by Homer, Patroclus, or Patroklos , son of Menoetius , was Achilles? beloved comrade and, according to some , his lover....
, Nestor advises Antilochus
Antilochus

In Greek mythology, Antilochus was the son of Nestor , king of Pylos. One of the suitors of Helen, he accompanied his father to the Trojan War....
 on how to win the chariot race
Chariot racing

Chariot racing was one of the most popular Ancient Greece, Roman Empire and Byzantine empire sports. Chariot racing was often dangerous to both driver and horse?they frequently suffered serious injury and even death?but generated strong spectator enthusiasm....
. Antilochus was later killed in battle by Memnon
Memnon (mythology)

In Greek mythology, Memnon was an Ethiopia king and son of Tithonus and Eos. At the Trojan War, he brought an army to Troy's defense and was killed by Achilles in retribution for killing Antilochus....
.

In the Odyssey
Odyssey

The Odyssey is one of two major ancient Hellenic civilization epic poetrys attributed to Homer. It is, in part, a sequel to the Iliad, the other work traditionally ascribed to Homer....
,
Nestor has safely returned to Pylos
Pylos

This article is about the Greek geographical feature and town. For the mythological figure see Pylus . For board game see Pylos .Pylos, or P?los , is a large bay and a town on the west coast of the Peloponnese, in the district of Messenia in southern Greece....
, whereto Odysseus
Odysseus

Odysseus or Ulysses , in Greek mythology , was a legendary Greeks king of Ithaca and the hero of Homer's Epic poetry, the Odyssey. Odysseus also plays a key role in Homer's Iliad and other works in the Epic Cycle....
's son Telemachus
Telemachus

Telemachus is a figure in Greek mythology, the son of Odysseus and Penelope, and a central character in Homer's Odyssey. The first four books in particular focus on Telemachus's journeys in search of news about his father; they are, therefore, traditionally accorded the collective title Telemachy....
 travels to inquire about the fate of his father. Nestor receives Telemachus kindly and entertains him lavishly, but is unable to furnish any information on his father's fate. Nestor's wife Eurydice (a mythological figure separate from Orpheus
Orpheus

Orpheus was a legendary figure, probably from Thracian origin, venerated by the Greeks and Thracians of the Classical age as a chief among poets and musicians, and the perfector of the lyre invented by Hermes....
's wife of the same name) and their remaining living sons appear in the Odyssey as well—Echephron, Stratius, Perseus
Perseus

Perseus , the legendary founder of Mycenae and of the Mycenae there, was the first of the mythic heroes of Greek mythology whose exploits in defeating various archaic monsters provided the founding myths in the cult of the Twelve Olympians....
, Aretus, Thrasymedes and Peisistratus. They also had a daughter, Polycaste.

Nestor's advice

Although Homer clearly intends his readers to perceive Nestor as an "elder statesman"-type figure worthy of respect, there are occasional flashes of humor at Nestor's expense in the Iliad
ILiad

The iLiad is an electronic handheld device, or e-book device, which can be used for document reading and editing. Like the Sony Reader or Amazon Kindle, the iLiad makes use of an electronic paper display....
,
as any advice he gives to the other combatants typically serves as a pretext for his first providing his listeners with a garrulous, long-winded exposition of his own past glorious feats in similar circumstances. Homer never actually calls Nestor a bore, but the reader is left with the impression that Homer considers him as such nonetheless. In the Odyssey
Odyssey

The Odyssey is one of two major ancient Hellenic civilization epic poetrys attributed to Homer. It is, in part, a sequel to the Iliad, the other work traditionally ascribed to Homer....
,
too, Homer's admiration of Nestor is tempered by some humour at his expense: Telemachus
Telemachus

Telemachus is a figure in Greek mythology, the son of Odysseus and Penelope, and a central character in Homer's Odyssey. The first four books in particular focus on Telemachus's journeys in search of news about his father; they are, therefore, traditionally accorded the collective title Telemachy....
, having returned to Nestor's home from a visit to Helen of Troy and Menelaus
Menelaus

Menelaus may refer to;*Menelaus, one of the two most known Atrides, a king of Sparta and son of Atreus and Aerope*Menelaus on the Moon, named after Menelaus of Alexandria....
 (where he has sought further information on his father's fate), urges Peisistratus to let him board his vessel immediately to return home rather than being subjected to a further dose of Nestor's rather overwhelming sense of hospitality.

Nestor’s advice in the Iliad has also been interpreted to have sinister undertones. For example, when Patroclus comes to Nestor for advice in Book 11, Nestor gets Patroclus to view disguising as Achilles as urgent. Karl Reinhardt, in Die Iliad und ihr Dichter, argues that this is contrary to what Patroclus really originally wanted – in fact, he is only there to receive information on behalf of Achilles about the wounded Machaon. Reinhardt notes that an “unimportant errand left behind by an all-important one…Patrocles’ role as messenger is crucial and an ironic purpose permeates the encounter.”

It is interesting to note that Homer offers contradictory portrayals of Nestor as a source of advice. On one hand, Homer portrays Nestor as a wise man; Nestor repeatedly offers to advice to the Achaeans that has been claimed to be anachronistic in Homer’s time – e.g. arranging the armies by tribes and clans or effectively using chariots in battle. Yet at the same time Nestor’s advice is frequently ineffective. Some examples include Nestor completely buying into the dream Zeus plants in Agamemnon in Book 2 and urging the Achaeans to battle, instructing the Achaeans in Book 4 to use spear techniques that in actuality would be disastrous, and in Book 11 giving advice to Patroclus that ultimately leads to his death. Yet Nestor is never questioned, and actually frequently praised.

Hanna Roisman, in Nestor the Good Counselor, explains that the characters in the Iliad ignore the discrepancy between the quality of Nestor’s advice and its outcomes is because in the world of the Iliad, “outcomes are ultimately in the hands of the ever arbitrary and fickle gods…heroes are not necessarily viewed as responsible when things go awry.” In the Iliad, people are judged not necessarily in the modern view of results, but as people. Therefore, Nestor should be viewed as a good counselor because of the qualities he possesses as described in his introduction in Book 1 – as a man of “sweet words,” a “clear-voiced orator,” and whose voice “flows sweeter than honey.” These are elements that make up Nestor, and they parallel the elements that Homer describes as part of a good counselor in Book 3.150-152. Therefore, “the definition tells us that Nestor, as a good advisor, possesses the three features…that it designates.” Nestor is a good counselor inherently, and the consequences of his advice has no bearing on that, a view that differs from how good counselors are viewed today.

Historical notations


Excavations in the late 20th century in Pylos uncovered a wine cellar reportedly belonging to King Nestor. The cellar had an estimated capacity of 1,250 gallons with several remnants of pithoi, large Greek storage jars.

The National Museum of Athens displays a two-handled wine cup made of pure gold that legend ascribes as belonging to Nestor.

Sources

  • Homer. Iliad I, 248; II, 370; IV, 293.
  • Homer. Odyssey III, 157, 343.
  • The Merchant of Venice Act I, Scene I, Line 55.
  • In James Joyce's Ulysses, the character of Deasy stands for Nestor.