Jim Diamond (Scottish musician)
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James "Jim" Diamond is a Scottish
Scottish people
The Scottish people , or Scots, are a nation and ethnic group native to Scotland. Historically they emerged from an amalgamation of the Picts and Gaels, incorporating neighbouring Britons to the south as well as invading Germanic peoples such as the Anglo-Saxons and the Norse.In modern use,...

 singer-songwriter
Singer-songwriter
Singer-songwriters are musicians who write, compose and sing their own musical material including lyrics and melodies. As opposed to contemporary popular music singers who write their own songs, the term singer-songwriter describes a distinct form of artistry, closely associated with the...

. Diamond is best known for his three Top 5 hit
Hit record
A hit record is a sound recording, usually in the form of a single or album, that sells a large number of copies or otherwise becomes broadly popular or well-known, through airplay, club play, inclusion in a film or stage play soundtrack, causing it to have "hit" one of the popular chart listings...

s. The first was "I Won't Let You Down
I Won't Let You Down
I Won't Let You Down is a 1982 single by British band Ph.D.. It reached number 3 on the UK charts in April 1982. The band consisted of Jim Diamond who was the lead vocalist, Tony Hymas on keyboards and Simon Phillips on drums...

" (1982), as the lead singer in the trio
Trio (music)
Trio is generally used in any of the following ways:* A group of three musicians playing the same or different musical instrument.* The performance of a piece of music by three people.* The contrasting section of a piece in ternary form...

 Ph.D.
Ph.D. (band)
Ph.D. is a British group that managed a UK Top 10 hit with "I Won't Let You Down" in April 1982, although the song had been a hit the previous year throughout Europe...

, with Tony Hymas
Tony Hymas
Anthony 'Tony' Hymas is an English keyboard player, pianist, composer and is well known for being a founding member of Ph.D. He is a very versatile musician and contributes in different styles of music....

 and Simon Phillips
Simon Phillips
Simon Phillips is an English jazz, pop and rock drummer.-Career:Phillips began to play professionally at the age of twelve in his father's Dixieland band for four years. He was then offered the chance to play in the musical Jesus Christ Superstar...

. His solo
Solo (music)
In music, a solo is a piece or a section of a piece played or sung by a single performer...

 performance, "I Should Have Known Better
I Should Have Known Better (Jim Diamond song)
"I Should Have Known Better" was a UK number one single for one week in December 1984 for Jim Diamond. The song was displaced after one week by Frankie Goes to Hollywood's song "The Power of Love"...

", was a United Kingdom
United Kingdom
The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern IrelandIn the United Kingdom and Dependencies, other languages have been officially recognised as legitimate autochthonous languages under the European Charter for Regional or Minority Languages...

 number one in 1984. The third track was the theme song
Theme music
Theme music is a piece that is often written specifically for a radio program, television program, video game or movie, and usually played during the title sequence and/or end credits...

 from Boon
Boon (TV series)
Boon is a British television drama and modern-day western series starring Michael Elphick, David Daker, and later Neil Morrissey. It was created by Jim Hill and Bill Stair and filmed by Central Television for ITV...

, "Hi Ho Silver
Hi Ho Silver
"Hi Ho Silver" is a number five hit in 1986 by Scottish singer/songwriter Jim Diamond. It is best known for being the theme song for Boon...

" which reached Number 5 in the UK Singles Chart
UK Singles Chart
The UK Singles Chart is compiled by The Official Charts Company on behalf of the British record-industry. The full chart contains the top selling 200 singles in the United Kingdom based upon combined record sales and download numbers, though some media outlets only list the Top 40 or the Top 75 ...

 in 1986. He has also featured as a vocalist on the charity No.1s "You'll Never Walk Alone
You'll Never Walk Alone (song)
"You'll Never Walk Alone" is a show tune from the 1945 Rodgers and Hammerstein musical Carousel.In the musical, in the second act, Nettie Fowler, the cousin of the female protagonist Julie Jordan, sings "You'll Never Walk Alone" to comfort and encourage Julie when her husband, Billy Bigelow, the...

" with The Crowd and "Let It Be
Let It Be (song)
"Let It Be" is a song by The Beatles, released in March 1970 as a single, and as the title track of their album Let It Be. It was written by Paul McCartney, but credited to Lennon–McCartney. It was their final single before McCartney announced his departure from the band...

" with Ferry Aid
Ferry Aid
Ferry Aid were a British-American ensemble group, brought together to record the song "Let It Be" in 1987. The single was released following the Zeebrugge Disaster, which had occurred on 6 March 1987 involving the capsizing of the MS Herald of Free Enterprise ferry, which killed 193 passengers and...

.

Early years

He started his music career at the young age of 15 with his own band ,The Method. This was discovered through a recent interview with Jim Diamond. Diamond, at age 16, also fronted a Glasgow band called Jade. That lineup included bassist Chris Glen
Chris Glen
Christopher 'Chris' Glen is a Scottish bass guitarist who has played in The Jade, Tear Gas, The Party Boys, The Sensational Alex Harvey Band and The Michael Schenker Group...

 who went on to play with "The Sensational Alex Harvey Band" and Jim Lacey on lead guitar who later went on to join The Alan Bown!
The Alan Bown Set
The Alan Bown Set later known as The Alan Bown! or just Alan Bown, were a British band of the 1960s and 1970s whose music evolved from jazz and blues through soul and rhythm and blues and ended up as psychedelia and progressive rock...

. Jade played many pub, club and college gigs in London in 1969, playing at Brunel University, West London College in Cricklewood, The Pied Bull in Islington, West Hampstead Country Club, another college in Virginia Water and many more in 1969. They also supported The Move on their Scottish tour with The Stoics in the same year.

He later toured Europe
Europe
Europe is, by convention, one of the world's seven continents. Comprising the westernmost peninsula of Eurasia, Europe is generally 'divided' from Asia to its east by the watershed divides of the Ural and Caucasus Mountains, the Ural River, the Caspian and Black Seas, and the waterways connecting...

 with another band Gully Foyle. Rare recordings of his performances with Gully Foyle were recently discovered on the internet
Internet
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.

Diamond was discovered by Alexis Korner
Alexis Korner
Alexis Korner was a blues musician and radio broadcaster, who has sometimes been referred to as "a Founding Father of British Blues"...

. He spent the next couple of years as part of Korner's band. He provided additional and backing vocals on many of Korner's songs. Most of which would appear on The Lost Album.

In 1976 Diamond left Korner to form Bandit
Bandit (Rock Band)
Bandit was a British rock band, existing between 1976 and 1978.Bandit released two albums with different line-ups. Bandit's debut Bandit was released in late 1976 on Arista Records. This album featured Jim Diamond on lead vocals, Danny McIntosh on guitar, future AC/DC band member Cliff Williams,...

. The line-up included AC/DC
AC/DC
AC/DC are an Australian rock band, formed in 1973 by brothers Malcolm and Angus Young. Commonly classified as hard rock, they are considered pioneers of heavy metal, though they themselves have always classified their music as simply "rock and roll"...

 band member Cliff Williams
Cliff Williams
Clifford Williams is an English bassist and backing vocalist, who has been a member of the Australian hard rock band AC/DC since mid-1977. He had started his professional music career in 1967 and was previously in the British groups Home and Bandit. His first studio album with AC/DC was Powerage...

. They were soon signed up by Arista Records
Arista Records
Arista was an American record label. It was a wholly owned subsidiary of Sony Music Entertainment and operated under the RCA Music Group. The label was founded in 1974 by Clive Davis, who formerly worked for CBS Records...

 and released their début album
Album
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, Bandit. They failed to reach the chart
Record chart
A record chart is a ranking of recorded music according to popularity during a given period of time. Examples of music charts are the Hit parade, Hot 100 or Top 40....

. In 1979 Diamond was lead vocalist for a Japanese band called BACCO. The debut album was Cha Cha Me.

Diamond went to Los Angeles
Los Angeles, California
Los Angeles , with a population at the 2010 United States Census of 3,792,621, is the most populous city in California, USA and the second most populous in the United States, after New York City. It has an area of , and is located in Southern California...

, California
California
California is a state located on the West Coast of the United States. It is by far the most populous U.S. state, and the third-largest by land area...

 to form Slick Diamond with Earl Slick
Earl Slick
Earl Slick is a guitarist best known for his collaborations with David Bowie, Jim Diamond and Robert Smith, although he has also worked with other artists , John Waite, and even released some solo recordings.In the early 1970s, Earl Slick gained his...

. He spent some time touring and recording and provided music for a film
Film
A film, also called a movie or motion picture, is a series of still or moving images. It is produced by recording photographic images with cameras, or by creating images using animation techniques or visual effects...

 soundtrack
Soundtrack
A soundtrack can be recorded music accompanying and synchronized to the images of a motion picture, book, television program or video game; a commercially released soundtrack album of music as featured in the soundtrack of a film or TV show; or the physical area of a film that contains the...

.

In the nineteen seventies he met and married Christine Bailey.

Big break

1982 would be Diamond's big break in to the public eye when he formed Ph.D
Ph.D. (band)
Ph.D. is a British group that managed a UK Top 10 hit with "I Won't Let You Down" in April 1982, although the song had been a hit the previous year throughout Europe...

 (Phillips, Hymas and Diamond), with pianist
Pianist
A pianist is a musician who plays the piano. A professional pianist can perform solo pieces, play with an ensemble or orchestra, or accompany one or more singers, solo instrumentalists, or other performers.-Choice of genres:...

/keyboard
Keyboard instrument
A keyboard instrument is a musical instrument which is played using a musical keyboard. The most common of these is the piano. Other widely used keyboard instruments include organs of various types as well as other mechanical, electromechanical and electronic instruments...

 player Tony Hymas and drummer Simon Phillips
Simon Phillips
Simon Phillips is an English jazz, pop and rock drummer.-Career:Phillips began to play professionally at the age of twelve in his father's Dixieland band for four years. He was then offered the chance to play in the musical Jesus Christ Superstar...

. They were signed by WEA Records
Warner Music Group
Warner Music Group is the third largest business group and family of record labels in the recording industry, making it one of the big four record companies...

 and had a hit single
Hit single
A hit single is a recorded song or instrumental released as a single that has become very popular. Although it is sometimes used to describe any widely-played or big-selling song, the term "hit" is usually reserved for a single that has appeared in an official music chart through repeated radio...

 with the multi-million selling "I Won't Let You Down
I Won't Let You Down
I Won't Let You Down is a 1982 single by British band Ph.D.. It reached number 3 on the UK charts in April 1982. The band consisted of Jim Diamond who was the lead vocalist, Tony Hymas on keyboards and Simon Phillips on drums...

".

Diamond contracted hepatitis
Hepatitis
Hepatitis is a medical condition defined by the inflammation of the liver and characterized by the presence of inflammatory cells in the tissue of the organ. The name is from the Greek hepar , the root being hepat- , meaning liver, and suffix -itis, meaning "inflammation"...

 and the band later decided to part ways. In 1984, he decided to go solo
Solo (music)
In music, a solo is a piece or a section of a piece played or sung by a single performer...

 and was signed to A&M Records
A&M Records
A&M Records is an American record label owned by Universal Music Group that operates under the mantle of its Interscope-Geffen-A&M division.-Beginnings:...

. He had a number one hit with "I Should Have Known Better
I Should Have Known Better (Jim Diamond song)
"I Should Have Known Better" was a UK number one single for one week in December 1984 for Jim Diamond. The song was displaced after one week by Frankie Goes to Hollywood's song "The Power of Love"...

" and also was number one in Latin America. He scored another hit soon after with the theme song from Boon
Boon (TV series)
Boon is a British television drama and modern-day western series starring Michael Elphick, David Daker, and later Neil Morrissey. It was created by Jim Hill and Bill Stair and filmed by Central Television for ITV...

, "Hi Ho Silver
Hi Ho Silver
"Hi Ho Silver" is a number five hit in 1986 by Scottish singer/songwriter Jim Diamond. It is best known for being the theme song for Boon...

". It reached Number 5 in the UK Singles Chart
UK Singles Chart
The UK Singles Chart is compiled by The Official Charts Company on behalf of the British record-industry. The full chart contains the top selling 200 singles in the United Kingdom based upon combined record sales and download numbers, though some media outlets only list the Top 40 or the Top 75 ...

 in May 1986. Diamond is also known for some guest vocal
Human voice
The human voice consists of sound made by a human being using the vocal folds for talking, singing, laughing, crying, screaming, etc. Its frequency ranges from about 60 to 7000 Hz. The human voice is specifically that part of human sound production in which the vocal folds are the primary...

s on two Genesis
Genesis (band)
Genesis are an English rock band that formed in 1967. The band currently comprises the longest-tenured members Tony Banks , Mike Rutherford and Phil Collins . Past members Peter Gabriel , Steve Hackett and Anthony Phillips , also played major roles in the band in its early years...

 band
Band (music)
In music, a musical ensemble or band is a group of musicians that works together to perform music. The following articles concern types of musical bands:* All-female band* Big band* Boy band* Christian band* Church band* Concert band* Cover band...

 members solo outings including;
  • "You Call This Victory" (From the movie Starship
    Starship (film)
    Starship, also known as Lorca and the Outlaws, is a 1984 science fiction film directed by Roger Christian from a screenplay by Christian and Matthew Jacobs...

    ) on the album
    Album
    An album is a collection of recordings, released as a single package on gramophone record, cassette, compact disc, or via digital distribution. The word derives from the Latin word for list .Vinyl LP records have two sides, each comprising one half of the album...

     Soundtracks
    Soundtracks (Tony Banks album)
    Soundtracks is a collection of soundtrack pieces from the films Quicksilver and Lorca and the Outlaws with music composed by Genesis keyboardist Tony Banks.-Reception:...

    by Tony Banks
    Tony Banks (musician)
    This article is about the musician. For other people named Tony Banks, see Tony BanksAnthony George "Tony" Banks is a British composer, and multi-instrumentalist, who performs as a keyboardist and a guitarist...

     in 1986.
  • "Days of Long Ago" on the album Darktown by Steve Hackett
    Steve Hackett
    Stephen Richard Hackett is a British singer-songwriter and guitarist. He gained prominence as a member of the British progressive rock group Genesis, which he joined in 1970 and left in 1977 to pursue a solo career...

     in 1999.

The 1999 compilation The Best of Jim Diamond
The Best of Jim Diamond
The Best of Jim Diamond is a compilation album of tracks from Scottish singer-songwriter Jim Diamond's first two solo albums Double Crossed and Desire for Freedom, along with B-sides.-Track listing:#"I Should Have Known Better" 4.07...

compiles singles and B-sides from his short time with A&M Records.

Recent years

In recent years, Diamond has teamed up with saxophonist
Saxophone
The saxophone is a conical-bore transposing musical instrument that is a member of the woodwind family. Saxophones are usually made of brass and played with a single-reed mouthpiece similar to that of the clarinet. The saxophone was invented by the Belgian instrument maker Adolphe Sax in 1846...

 Chris "Snake" Davis, who is known for his work with soul
Soul music
Soul music is a music genre originating in the United States combining elements of gospel music and rhythm and blues. According to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, soul is "music that arose out of the black experience in America through the transmutation of gospel and rhythm & blues into a form of...

 outfit, M People
M People
M People are a British house music act from Manchester, who formed in 1990 and achieved success throughout most of the 1990s. The name M People is from the initials of Mike Pickering, who formed the group.-Career:...

. The pair were known as The Blue Shoes, but more recently have been billed as Jim Diamond and Snake Davis.

In 2005, Diamond released his first studio
Recording studio
A recording studio is a facility for sound recording and mixing. Ideally both the recording and monitoring spaces are specially designed by an acoustician to achieve optimum acoustic properties...

 album in eleven years. Souled and Healed also gave Diamond the single
Single (music)
In music, a single or record single is a type of release, typically a recording of fewer tracks than an LP or a CD. This can be released for sale to the public in a variety of different formats. In most cases, the single is a song that is released separately from an album, but it can still appear...

 releases "When You Turn" and "Blue Shoes".

Diamond's son Lawrence has followed in his father's musical footsteps and is the bassist
Bassist
A bass player, or bassist is a musician who plays a bass instrument such as a double bass, bass guitar, keyboard bass or a low brass instrument such as a tuba or sousaphone. Different musical genres tend to be associated with one or more of these instruments...

 with the UK
United Kingdom
The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern IrelandIn the United Kingdom and Dependencies, other languages have been officially recognised as legitimate autochthonous languages under the European Charter for Regional or Minority Languages...

 rock
Rock music
Rock music is a genre of popular music that developed during and after the 1960s, particularly in the United Kingdom and the United States. It has its roots in 1940s and 1950s rock and roll, itself heavily influenced by rhythm and blues and country music...

 group
Musical ensemble
A musical ensemble is a group of people who perform instrumental or vocal music. In classical music, trios or quartets either blend the sounds of musical instrument families or group together instruments from the same instrument family, such as string ensembles or wind ensembles...

, Official Secrets Act. The band signed a recording contract
Recording contract
A recording contract is a legal agreement between a record label and a recording artist , where the artist makes a record for the label to sell and promote...

 in 2008.

Jim Diamond’s latest album “City of Soul” released by Camino Records (catalogue number CAMCD40, release date 3 October 2011) features among others Wet Wet Wet
Wet Wet Wet
Wet Wet Wet are a Scottish pop rock band that formed in the 1980s. They scored a number of hits in the British charts and around the world. The band is composed of Marti Pellow , Tommy Cunningham , Graeme Clark and Neil Mitchell...

 drummer Tommy Cunningham
Tommy Cunningham
Thomas "Tommy" Cunningham is a Scottish musician, best known as the drummer for Wet Wet Wet.Cunningham's father, Tom Sr., bought his son his first drum kit in 1977, "down the Social Club for £15"...

 and Greg Kane of Hue & Cry. All proceeds from this album of Soul covers benefit the children's charity Radio Clyde Cash For Kids.

Singles (solo)

Year Title B-Side/Bonus tracks Album UK Singles Chart
UK Singles Chart
The UK Singles Chart is compiled by The Official Charts Company on behalf of the British record-industry. The full chart contains the top selling 200 singles in the United Kingdom based upon combined record sales and download numbers, though some media outlets only list the Top 40 or the Top 75 ...

 position
Label
1976 "Clean Up the City" "Back On the Line" Bradley
1984 "I Should Have Known Better
I Should Have Known Better (Jim Diamond song)
"I Should Have Known Better" was a UK number one single for one week in December 1984 for Jim Diamond. The song was displaced after one week by Frankie Goes to Hollywood's song "The Power of Love"...

"
"Impossible Dream" Double Crossed
Double Crossed
Double Crossed was Jim Diamond's solo début album in 1985. The album featured Diamond's first three solo singles "I Should Have Known Better", "I Sleep Alone at Night" and "Remember I Love You"....

# 1 A&M
1985 "I Sleep Alone at Night
I Sleep Alone at Night
"I Sleep Alone at Night" is Jim Diamond's second solo release after the break-up of his band PhD. It charted at #72 in 1985.-Music video:The music video for the song begins with Diamond walking into a darkened room holding a guitar and approaching a microphone. He begins performing the song with...

"
"Caledonia" Double Crossed # 72 A&M
1985 "Remember I Love You
Remember I Love You (Jim Diamond song)
"Remember I Love You" is a song by Scottish musician Jim Diamond. It was his fourth solo release, and charted at number 42 on the UK charts in 1985. It was the third single from his debut solo studio album Double Crossed....

"
"Rock 'n' Roll" Double Crossed # 42 A&M
1986 "Hi Ho Silver
Hi Ho Silver
"Hi Ho Silver" is a number five hit in 1986 by Scottish singer/songwriter Jim Diamond. It is best known for being the theme song for Boon...

"
"Hi Ho Silver" (instrumental
Instrumental
An instrumental is a musical composition or recording without lyrics or singing, although it might include some non-articulate vocal input; the music is primarily or exclusively produced by musical instruments....

)
Desire For Freedom # 5 A&M
1986 "Young Love (Carry Me Away)" "Blue Songs" Desire For Freedom
Desire for Freedom
Desire For Freedom was singer/songwriter Jim Diamond's second studio album.Released in 1986 it featured a wide range of styles such as heartfelt ballads and...

# 92 A&M
1986 "Desire" "Together" Desire For Freedom A&M
1986 "So Strong" "You'll Go Crazy" Desire For Freedom A&M
1987 "Shout It out!" "The Message of Childwatch" TML
1988 "Broadway" "Second Chance" Jim Diamond (1988) Teldec
1988 "The Last Time" "Miracles" Jim Diamond
Jim Diamond (1988 album)
Singer/Songwriter Jim Diamond's self-titled and third studio album. Diamond was assisted by old friends Graham Lyle and Chris Parren, who had worked with him on previous albums....

(1988)
Teldec
1993 "Not Man Enough" "Child's Heart" / "If You're Gonna Break My Heart" Jim Diamond
Jim Diamond (1993 album)
Jim Diamond was Jim Diamond's first studio album in five years . Featuring nine new songs and three re-recordings "Hi Ho Silver", "I Won't Let You Down" and "I Should Have Known Better"....

(1993)
Polydor
1994 "Sugarolly Mountains" Sugarolly Days
Sugarolly Days
Sugarolly Days is a 1994 album by Jim Diamond. It is a collection of Scottish folk songs. Gallagher & Lyle appear on several tracks.-Track listing:#Sugarolly Mountains 5.59#The Road to Dundee 4.10#One Day Without Fear 4.45#Ae Fond Kiss 3.25...

Righteous/Total
1994 "Caledonia (Heartland)" Sugarolly Days Righteous/Total
2005 "When You Turn" "When You Turn" (album version)" / "Rhythm of the Radio" Souled and Healed
Souled and Healed
Souled and Healed is the 2005 comeback album from Jim Diamond, his first studio album since 1994's Sugarolly Days. He would promote this album in the UK and Europe intermittently with saxophone player Snake Davis as The Blue Shoes.-Track listing:...

Hypertension
2006 "Blue Shoes" "I Won't Let You Down" (live) / "Blue Shoes" (live) / "My Girl" (live) /
"I Should Have Known Better" (live) / "Wonderful World" (live)
Souled and Healed Hypertension
2011 "Morning Glory" City of Soul Camino Records

Charity singles featuring Jim Diamond

Year Song / Album
1985 "You'll Never Walk Alone
You'll Never Walk Alone
You'll Never Walk Alone is a song from the musical Carousel, a pop standard and football club anthem, for example that of Liverpool F.C.You'll Never Walk Alone may also refer to:* You'll Never Walk Alone , studio album...

" (with The Crowd)
1987 "Let It Be
Let It Be (song)
"Let It Be" is a song by The Beatles, released in March 1970 as a single, and as the title track of their album Let It Be. It was written by Paul McCartney, but credited to Lennon–McCartney. It was their final single before McCartney announced his departure from the band...

" (with Ferry Aid
Ferry Aid
Ferry Aid were a British-American ensemble group, brought together to record the song "Let It Be" in 1987. The single was released following the Zeebrugge Disaster, which had occurred on 6 March 1987 involving the capsizing of the MS Herald of Free Enterprise ferry, which killed 193 passengers and...

)
1990 "Sailing
Sailing (Rod Stewart song)
"Sailing" is a song written by Gavin Sutherland and recorded by The Sutherland Bros. Band . Released in June 1972, it can be found on their album 'Lifeboat' released in the same year....

" (with Rock Against Repatriation)

Television appearances

Year Television program
Television program
A television program , also called television show, is a segment of content which is intended to be broadcast on television. It may be a one-time production or part of a periodically recurring series...

me
1977 Supersonic (performing "Ohio" with Bandit)
1982-86 Top of the Pops
Top of the Pops
Top of the Pops, also known as TOTP, is a British music chart television programme, made by the BBC and originally broadcast weekly from 1 January 1964 to 30 July 2006. After 25 December 2006 it became a radio program, now hosted by Tony Blackburn...

(performing "I Won't Let You Down" with Ph.D. (1982), "I Should Have Known Better" (1984), "Hi Ho Silver" (1986)
1985 The Keith Harris Show
1994 Pebble Mill (performing "I Should Have Known Better", "Skye Boat Song")
2001 Stars in Their Eyes
Stars In Their Eyes
Stars in Their Eyes is a British television talent show that ran on Saturdays nights from 21 July 1990 until 23 December 2006 in which contestants impersonate showbiz stars...

(guest appearance to congratulate contestant)
2010 I Migliori Anni (performing "I Should Have Known Better" and "I Won't Let You Down")
2010 Concerto Dell'Epifania (performing "I Should Have Known Better")

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