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Order of the Thistle

The Most Ancient and Most Noble Order of the Thistle is an order of chivalry associated with Scotland Scotland

Scotland is a nation [i] in northwest Europe [i] and one of the constituent [i] countries [i] ... 

. While its original date of foundation is unknown, James VII James II of England

James VII of Scotland and James II of England became King of Scots [i], King of England [i], and King of Ireland [i] ... 

  instituted the modern Order in 1687. The Order consists of the Sovereign and sixteen Knights and Ladies, as well as certain "extra" knights . The Sovereign alone grants membership of the Order; he or she is not advised by the Government, as occurs with most other Orders. The sixteen members are required to be Scottish-born, though not the "extra" knights and ladies. The Order's primary emblem is the thistle Thistle

Thistle is the common name of a polyphyletic [i] group of flowering plant [i]s characterised b ... 

, the national flower of Scotland.

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The Most Ancient and Most Noble Order of the Thistle is an order of chivalry associated with Scotland Scotland

Scotland is a nation [i] in northwest Europe [i] and one of the constituent [i] countries [i] ... 

. While its original date of foundation is unknown, James VII James II of England

James VII of Scotland and James II of England became King of Scots [i], King of England [i], and King of Ireland [i] ... 

  instituted the modern Order in 1687. The Order consists of the Sovereign and sixteen Knights and Ladies, as well as certain "extra" knights . The Sovereign alone grants membership of the Order; he or she is not advised by the Government, as occurs with most other Orders. The sixteen members are required to be Scottish-born, though not the "extra" knights and ladies.

The Order's primary emblem is the thistle Thistle

Thistle is the common name of a polyphyletic [i] group of flowering plant [i]s characterised b... 

, the national flower of Scotland. The motto is Nemo me impune lacessit Nemo me impune lacessit

Nemo me impune lacessit is the royal Scottish [i] motto [i], used histo ... 

; the same motto also appears on the Royal Coat of Arms of the United Kingdom for use in Scotland Royal coat of arms of the United Kingdom

The Royal Coat of Arms of the United Kingdom is the official coat of arms of the British monarch [i], cu ... 

 and on some pound coin British One Pound coin

The circulating British one pound coin is minted from a nickel-brass alloy [i] of approximately 70% copper [i] ... 

s. The patron saint of the Order is St Andrew Saint Andrew

Saint Andrew [i] , called in the Orthodox [i] tradition Protocletos, or the Firs ... 

.

Most British United Kingdom

The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is a country and sovereign state [i] tha ... 

 orders of chivalry cover the entire kingdom, but the three most exalted ones each pertain to one constituent country only. The Order of the Thistle, which pertains to Scotland, is the second-most senior in precedence. Its equivalent in England England

England is the largest and most populous constituent country [i] of the United Kingdom [i]. ... 

, The Most Noble Order of the Garter Order of the Garter

The Most Noble Order of the Garter is an English [i] order of chivalry [i] with a history stretc ... 

, is the oldest documented order of chivalry in the United Kingdom, dating to the middle fourteenth century. In 1783 an Irish Ireland

Ireland is the third largest [i] island [i] in Europe [i]. ... 

 equivalent, The Most Illustrious Order of St Patrick Order of St. Patrick

The Most Illustrious Order of Saint Patrick is an order of chivalry [i] associated with Ireland [i]. ... 

, was founded; since the independence Irish Free State

The Irish Free State was the name of the state comprising the 26 of Ireland [i]'s 32 counties that wer ... 

 of the greater part of Ireland the Order has fallen dormant .

History



The original date of the Order's foundation is unknown. According to legend, Ķengus mac Fergusa , King of the Picts, while engaged in battle at Athelstaneford Athelstaneford

Athelstaneford is a village in East Lothian [i], Scotland [i]. ... 

 with the Saxon Anglo-Saxons

Anglo-Saxons is a collective term usually used to describe culturally and linguistically related groups ... 

 King Aethelstan of East Anglia, saw in the heavens the cross of St Andrew Flag of Scotland

* List of Scottish flags [i]
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    . After he won the battle, Angus is said to have established the Order of the Thistle, dedicating it to the saint, in 787. The tale is not credible, not only because of the unlikeliness of the alleged miracle, but also because the two individuals purported to have fought each other did not even reign during the same century. Another story states that Angus founded the Order in 809 to commemorate an alliance with the Emperor Charlemagne Charlemagne

    Charlemagne was the King of the Franks [i] who conquered Italy [i] and took the Iron Crown of Lombardy [i]... 

    , which is a little less implausible given the Scottish bodyguards employed by Charlemagne Charlemagne

    Charlemagne was the King of the Franks [i] who conquered Italy [i] and took the Iron Crown of Lombardy [i]... 

    . There is, in addition, a tradition that it was instituted, or re-instituted, on the battlefield by Robert I Robert I of Scotland

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     at Bannockburn Battle of Bannockburn

    The Battle of Bannockburn was a significant Scottish [i] victory in the Wars of Scottish Independence [i] ... 

    . Many credit James III, who adopted the thistle as the royal plant badge and issued coins depicting thistles, with founding the Order during the fifteenth century 15th century

    As a means of recording the passage of time [i], the 15th century was that century [i] which lasted from ... 

    . Others state that James V James V of Scotland

    James V was King of Scots [i] .

... 

, who had been admitted to the Order of the Garter in England England

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, the Order of St Michael in France France

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 and the Order of the Golden Fleece Order of the Golden Fleece

The Order of the Golden Fleece is an order of chivalry [i] founded in 1430 [i] by Duke Philip III [i] ... 

 in the Holy Roman Empire Holy Roman Empire

The Holy Roman Empire was a mainly Central Europe [i]an conglomeration of lands [i] in the Middle Ages [i] ... 

, established the Order of the Thistle in 1540 because he was embarrassed that he had no honour to confer on foreign monarchs. He allegedly conferred membership of the "Order of the Burr or Thissil" on Francis I, King of France Francis I of France

[i] in [[1515]... 

.

Some Scottish order of chivalry definitely existed during the sixteenth century 16th century

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, but had lapsed by its conclusion. James VII issued letters patent Letters patent

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 "reviving and restoring the Order of the Thistle to its full glory, lustre and magnificency" in 1687. Eight knights, out of a maximum of twelve, were appointed, but the King was deposed in 1688. His successors, the joint monarchs William and Mary, did not make any further appointments to the Order, which consequently fell into desuetude. In 1703, however, Anne Anne of Great Britain

Anne became Queen of England [i], Scotland [i] and Ireland [i] on 8 March [i] 1702 [i] ... 

 once again revived the Order of the Thistle, which survives to this day.

Composition

The Kings of Scotland List of monarchs of Scotland

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—later the Kings of Great Britain Kingdom of Great Britain

Kingdom of Great Britain
... 

 and of the United Kingdom United Kingdom

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—have served as Sovereigns of the Order. When James VII revived the Order, the statutes stated that the Order would "consist of the Sovereign and twelve Knights-Brethren in allusion to the Blessed Saviour Jesus

Jesus,Some of the historians and Biblical scholars who place the birth and death of Jesus within this ra... 

 and his Twelve Apostles Twelve Apostles

The Twelve Apostles were men that according to the Synoptic Gospels [i] and Christian [i] tradition, wer ... 

." In 1827, George IV George IV of the United Kingdom

George IV was king [i] of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland [i] and Hanover [i] ... 

 augmented the Order to sixteen members. Women were originally excluded from the Order; Elizabeth II Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom

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, however, allowed the admission of Ladies of the Thistle in 1987.

From time to time, individuals may be admitted to the Order by special statutes. Such members are known as "Extra Knights" and do not count towards the sixteen-member limit. Members of the British Royal Family are normally admitted through this procedure; the first to be so admitted was a younger son of George III George III of the United Kingdom

George III was King of Great Britain [i] and King of Ireland [i] from 25 October [i] ... 

, HRH The Prince William Henry William IV of the United Kingdom

William IV was King of the United Kingdom [i] and of Hanover [i] from 26 June [i] 1830 [i] un ... 

 . Olav V, King of Norway Olav V of Norway

Olav V, King of Norway from 1957 to 1991.... 

, the first foreigner to be admitted to the Order, was also admitted by special statute in 1962.

The Sovereign has historically had the power to choose Knights and Ladies of the Order. From the eighteenth century 18th century

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 onwards, the Sovereign made his or her choices upon the advice of the Government. George VI George VI of the United Kingdom

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 felt that the Orders of the Garter and the Thistle had been used only for political patronage, rather than to reward actual merit. Therefore, with the agreement of the Prime Minister and the Leader of the Opposition in 1946, the Order of the Thistle returned to the personal gift of the Sovereign.

Knights and Ladies of the Thistle may also be admitted to the Order of the Garter. Formerly, many, but not all, Knights elevated to the senior Order would resign from the Order of the Thistle. The first to resign from the Order of the Thistle was John Campbell, 2nd Duke of Argyll in 1710; the last to take such an action was Thomas Dundas, 2nd Earl of Zetland Thomas Dundas, 2nd Earl of Zetland

Thomas Dundas, 2nd Earl of Zetland, KG [i] was a British [i] politici ... 

 in 1872. Knights and Ladies of the Thistle may also be deprived of their knighthoods. The only individual to have suffered such a fate was John Erskine, 6th Earl of Mar who lost both the knighthood and the earldom after participating in the Jacobite rising Jacobite rising

Each Jacobite Rising formed part of a series of military campaigns by Jacobites [i] attemptin ... 

 of 1715.

The Order has five officers: the Dean, the Chancellor, the Usher, the King of Arms and the Secretary. The Dean is normally a cleric of the Church of Scotland Church of Scotland

The Church of Scotland is the national church [i] of Scotland [i]. ... 

. The Chancellor is normally one of the knights, though not necessarily the most senior. The Usher of the Order is the Gentleman Usher of the Green Rod . The King of Arms of the Order, responsible for heraldry Heraldry

Heraldry is the practice of designing, displaying, describing and recording coats of arms [i] ... 

, is the Lord Lyon King of Arms Lord Lyon King of Arms

The Lord Lyon King of Arms, the head of Lyon Court [i], is the most junior of the Great Officers of State [i] ... 

, the head of Scottish Heraldry. The Lord Lyon often—but not invariably—also serves as the Secretary.

Vestments and accoutrements


For the Order's great occasions, such as its annual service each June or July, as well for coronations Coronation of the British monarch

The Coronation of the British monarch is a ceremony [i] in which the monarch [i] of the ... 

, the Knights and Ladies wear an elaborate costume:

  • The mantle is a green robe worn over their suits or military uniforms. The mantle is lined with white taffeta; it is tied with green and gold tassels. On the left shoulder of the mantle, the star of the Order is depicted.
  • The hat is made of black velvet and is plumed with white osprey Osprey

    The Osprey is a medium large raptor [i] which is a specialist fish-eater with a worldwide d ... 

     feathers.
  • The collar is made of gold and depicts thistles and sprigs of rue Rue

    Rue is a genus of strongly scented evergreen [i] subshrub [i]s 20-60 cm tall, in the family Rutaceae [i] ... 

    . It is worn over the mantle.
  • The St Andrew, also called the badge-appendant, is worn suspended from the collar. It comprises a gold enamelled depiction of St Andrew, wearing a green gown and purple coat, holding a white saltire. Gold rays are shown emanating from St Andrew's head.


Aside from these special occasions, however, much simpler insignia are used whenever a member of the Order attends an event at which decorations are worn.
  • The star of the Order consists of a silver St Andrew's saltire, with clusters of rays between the arms thereof. In the centre is depicted a green circle bearing the motto of the Order in gold majuscules; within the circle, there is depicted a thistle on a gold field. It is worn pinned to the left breast.
  • The broad riband is a dark green sash worn across the body, from the left shoulder to the right hip.
  • At the right hip of the Riband, the badge of the Order is attached. On the obverse, the badge depicts St Andrew in the same form as the star. On the reverse, it depicts a thistle, on a green ground and surrounded by the Order's motto.


However, on certain "collar days" designated by the Sovereign, members attending formal events may wear the Order's collar over their military uniform, formal wear, or other costume. They will then substitute the broad riband of another order to which they belong , since the Order of the Thistle is represented by the collar.

Upon the death of a Knight or Lady, the insignia must be returned to the Central Chancery of the Orders of Knighthood. The badge and star are returned personally to the Sovereign by the nearest relative of the deceased.

Officers of the Order also wear green robes. The Gentleman Usher of the Green Rod also bears, as the title of his office suggests, a green rod. Lord Lyon wears a tabard Tabard

A tabard is a short coat, either sleeveless, or with short sleeves or shoulder pieces, emblazoned on the... 

 depicting the Royal Arms.

Chapel



When James VII revived the Order in 1687, he directed that the Abbey Church at the Palace of Holyroodhouse Holyrood Palace

The Palace of Holyroodhouse, or informally Holyrood Palace, founded as a monastery by David I of Scotland [i] ... 

 be converted to a Chapel for the Order of the Thistle, perhaps copying the idea from the Order of the Garter . James VII, however, was deposed by 1688; the Chapel, meanwhile, had been destroyed during riots. The Order did not have a Chapel until 1911, when one was added onto St Giles High Kirk St. Giles' Cathedral

A prominent feature of the Edinburgh [i] skyline, St. ... 

 in Edinburgh Edinburgh

Edinburgh is the capital [i] of Scotland [i] and its second-largest city [i] ... 

. Each year, the Sovereign resides at the Palace of Holyroodhouse for a week in June or July; during the visit, a service for the Order is held. Any new Knights or Ladies are installed at annual services.

Each member of the Order, including the Sovereign, is allotted a stall in the choir Cathedral diagram

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 of the Chapel, above which his or her heraldic devices are displayed. Perched on the pinnacle of a knight's stall is his helm, decorated with a mantling and topped by his crest. Under the laws of heraldry, women other than monarchs do not bear helms or crests; instead, the coronet appropriate to the Lady's rank is used . Unlike other British Orders, the armorial banner Banner

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s of Knights and Ladies of the Thistle are not hung in the chapel, but instead in an adjacent part of St Giles High Kirk. The Thistle Chapel does, however, bear the arms of members living and deceased on stall plates. These pieces of brass are affixed to the back of the stall and display its occupant's name, arms, and date of admission into the Order.

Upon the death of a Knight, helm, mantling, crest and sword are taken down. The stall plates, however, are not removed; rather, they remain permanently affixed somewhere about the stall, so that the stalls of the chapel are festooned with a colourful record of the Order's Knights since 1911.

Precedence and privileges


Knights and Ladies of the Thistle are assigned positions in the order of precedence, ranking above all others of knightly rank, and above baronets. Wives, sons, daughters and daughters-in-law of Knights of the Thistle also feature on the order of precedence; relatives of Ladies of the Thistle, however, are not assigned any special precedence.

Knights of the Thistle prefix "Sir," and Ladies prefix "Lady," to their forenames. Wives of Knights may prefix "Lady" to their surnames, but no equivalent privilege exists for husbands of Ladies. Such forms are not used by peers and princes, except when the names of the former are written out in their fullest forms.

Knights and Ladies use the post-nominal letters "KT" and "LT," respectively. When an individual is entitled to use multiple post-nominal letters, "KT" or "LT" appears before all others, except "Bt" or "Btss" , "VC" , "GC" and "KG" or "LG" .

Knights and Ladies may encircle their arms with the circlet and the collar of the Order; the former is shown either outside or on top of the latter. The badge is depicted suspended from the collar. The Royal Arms depict the circlet, superimposed over the collar, of the Thistle only in Scotland; they show the Garter in England, Wales and Northern Ireland.

Knights and Ladies are also entitled to receive heraldic supporters Supporters

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. This high privilege is only shared by members of the Royal Family, peers, Knights and Ladies of the Garter, and Knights and Dames Grand Cross and Knights Grand Commanders of the junior orders.

Current members and officers


Sovereign


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Knights and Ladies Companion

  • The Right Honourable The Earl of Wemyss and March KT
  • His Grace The Duke of Buccleuch and Queensberry John Scott, 9th Duke of Buccleuch

    Sir Walter Francis John Scott, 9th Duke of Buccleuch, 11th Duke of Queensberry, KT [i] ... 

     KT VRD
  • The Right Honourable The Earl of Elgin and Kincardine KT VRD DL
  • The Right Honourable The Lord Thomson of Monifieth KT PC DL
  • The Right Honourable The Earl of Airlie KT GCVO PC
  • Captain Sir Iain Tennant KT
  • The Right Honourable The Viscount of Arbuthnott KT CBE DSC
  • The Right Honourable The Earl of Crawford and Balcarres KT GCVO PC
  • Lady Marion Fraser LT
  • The Right Honourable The Lord Macfarlane of Bearsden KT DL
  • The Right Honourable The Lord Mackay of Clashfern KT PC
  • The Right Honourable The Lord Wilson of Tillyorn KT GCMG
  • The Right Honourable The Lord Sutherland of Houndwood KT
  • Sir Eric Anderson KT
  • The Right Honourable The Lord Steel of Aikwood David Steel

    David Martin Scott Steel, Baron Steel of Aikwood, KT [i], KBE [i] ... 

     KT KBE PC
  • The Right Honourable The Lord Robertson of Port Ellen George Robertson, Baron Robertson of Port Ellen

    George Islay MacNeill Robertson, Baron Robertson of Port Ellen, KT [i], GCMG [i]... 

     KT GCMG PC

Supernumerary Knights and Ladies


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 KG KT OM GBE AC QSO PC
  • HRH The Prince Charles, Duke of Rothesay Charles, Prince of Wales

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     KG KT GCB OM AK QSO PC ADC
  • HRH The Princess Royal Anne, Princess Royal

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     LG LT GCVO QSO

Officers

  • Dean: The Very Reverend Gilleasbuig Iain MacMillan CVO
  • Chancellor: His Grace The Duke of Buccleuch and Queensberry KT VRD
  • Usher: Rear Admiral Christopher Hope Layman CB DSO LVO
  • King of Arms King of Arms

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     and Secretary: Robin Orr Blair Robin Blair

    Robin Orr Blair, LVO [i], WS [i], Lord Lyon King of Arms of Scotland [i] ... 

     LVO WS

See also

  • List of Knights and Ladies of the Thistle
  • Dean of the Thistle
  • Usher of the Green Rod
  • Chancellor of the Order of the Thistle
  • Order of the Garter Order of the Garter

    The Most Noble Order of the Garter is an English [i] order of chivalry [i] with a history stretc ... 

  • Order of the Bath Order of the Bath

    The Most Honourable Order of the Bath is a British [i] order of chivalry [i] founded by George I [i] ... 

  • Order of St Michael and St George Order of St Michael and St George

    The Most Distinguished Order of Saint Michael and Saint George is a British order of chivalry founded on... 

  • Royal Victorian Order Royal Victorian Order

    The Royal Victorian Order is an order of chivalry that was established by Queen Victoria [i] ... 

  • Order of the British Empire Order of the British Empire

    The Most Excellent Order of the British Empire is a British [i] order of chivalry [i] est ... 

  • List of people who have declined a British honour

References