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Gun politics in the United States

Gun politics in the United States

 
What are some of the arguments against gun control?
 
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Gun politics in the United States discussion
 
blockfrei
04/03/09
What are some of the arguments against gun control?
           
 
bravotren
04/03/09
replied to: blockfrei
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Some feel that federal registration laws violate personal privacy and property rights.
           
 
JSDonald
04/03/09
replied to: bravotren
Replied To:  Some feel that federal registration laws violate personal privacy a...
Many people feel that guns are important for self protection. Most registered guns are never used in a violent crime.
           
 
korny
07/21/09
replied to: blockfrei
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Look at Australia. They, like the US politicos, felt that removing guns from the hands of private citizens would reduce crime. So, a year ago, they passed legislation to force citizens to give up their firearms.

As a result, criminals now know, that, they, with their illegal guns (they didn't give up their guns), can commit a crime without being confronted by someone protecting themselves, in the absence of the police.

So, crimes of all sorts have increased, dramatically.

I will relinquish my guns, when the government can guarantee me they WILL remove guns from the hands of thugs, bullies, and, other criminals. That means, automatic death penalty for anyone who is caught with a gun in his/her possession, not at the discretion of a judge.
           
 
edimonk
07/21/09
replied to: korny
Replied To:  Look at Australia. They, like the US politicos, felt that removing ...
I completely agree.

Another example on the other extreme is Canada. Gun ownership in Canada per capita is close the the US, yet their violent crime rates are miniscule compared to the US.

Guns aren't the problem. There are deep systemic problems in the US are at the root of our problems with gun violence
           
 
trumanator1
12/23/09
replied to: korny
Replied To:  Look at Australia. They, like the US politicos, felt that removing ...
There can be no way that any gov. can gaurantee gun control
so a mandatory death penalty is crazy. if you register all guns, then you tell the gov where they all are
           
 
trumanator1
12/23/09
replied to: blockfrei
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Real gun control is trigger control
           
 
Korny
12/23/09
replied to: trumanator1
Replied To:  There can be no way that any gov. can gaurantee gun control so a m...
That is the bovine feces the American terrorists (politicians) want you to believe. They can take your home, your car, your money, but, they can't take your gun? That statement is exemplary of the problem, "they get my gun when they pry it out of my cold dead fingers." OK, just make the fingers dead- not that difficult. Home invasion robbers do it all the time- with ILLEGAL guns. Illegal "immigrants" do it- with their ILLEGAL guns. Problem is, Americans want to be able to break the law, without facing equal consequences.

You have a right to reply to this, even if you are wrong.
           
 
Korny
12/23/09
replied to: trumanator1
Replied To:  There can be no way that any gov. can gaurantee gun control so a m...
Registering would work IF outlaws obeyed laws. They don't- EVER! So, if I register mine, and, the illegal "immigrant" down the block doesn't, he can shoot me, and, I can't respond. Gun registry is discriminatory. It favors criminals over law abiding citizens.
           
 
11durena
01/05/10
replied to: bravotren
Replied To:  Some feel that federal registration laws violate personal privacy a...
Felons are unable to acquire guns, and that's the way it should be. A family member of mine has several valuable rifles, however, and he has never so much as received a speeding ticket. It is nut jobs that like killing and armed robbery who should have their dangerous possessions taken away, not law-abiding citizens like you and I. We all know that even if they do outlaw guns, some people WILL find a way to get them.
           
 
11durena
01/12/10
replied to: peewee
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Is it really necessary to speak that obscenely? Not all of us are "racist ass muther fukers." I believe that everyone has the right to have an opinion, including you, but there are better ways to express those opinions. Nice picture, by the way.
           
 
Korny
01/12/10
replied to: trumanator1
Replied To:  There can be no way that any gov. can gaurantee gun control so a m...
People who are into criminal activity (CRIMINALS) will NEVER register their guns. Gun registration will guarantee the we know where all LEGAL guns are. Your argument has a large hole in it. So, you tell me, how do you get those whop obey NO LAWS to register their guns? How do you control outlaws? Make it good You get one shot.
           
 
Korny
01/12/10
replied to: 11durena
Replied To:  Felons are unable to acquire guns, and that's the way it should be....
REALITY CHECK!!!

Felons are unable to acquire LEGAL guns. That's the problem. criminals of ALL kinds ignore ALL laws. It's easier to get an illegal gun than a legal one. Felons aquire guns all the time. There are at least ten times as many illegal gun dealers as legal gun dealers.

The statement you made shows how totally uninformed you are about what actually goes on in at the streat level.

           
 
11durena
01/12/10
replied to: Korny
Replied To:  REALITY CHECK!!! Felons are unable to acquire LEGAL guns. That's...
You seem very well informed about what goes on at street level. I never find myself down there for some reason... but if what you say is true, then they ought to be taking a look at that instead of taking away my guns.
           
 
Korny
01/12/10
replied to: peewee
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You showed your true colors- white, red, and green. Your entire vocabulary, too- all swear words. No discussion- just name calling.
           
 
Korny
01/12/10
replied to: 11durena
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>>You seem very well informed about what goes on at street level.<<

It pays to know about all strata of society.

Yes, even I can get a gun for $200, and no waiting period- because I keep myself informed of what is going on in my community- even the street level. I don't hide in an ivory tower and criticize those who don't.
           
 
lehmann520
03/04/10
replied to: peewee
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"Fuk u korny u fukin racist ass muther fuker u dam straight ill shoot ur ass fukin puto culero"

ah yes, another well educated, responsible citizen produced by the realities of government programs. My tax dollars at work AND he/she owns a computer (sans spell checker, apparently the aid program doesn't want he/she to feel bad about what he/she DOESN'T know), has access to the internet, is a gun owner, and a blatant racist.

I am poor (saved for a year to buy a 600 dollar computer and go without luxuries to pay for high speed internet), barely educated (ged and two semesters of college)and very proud to be an American. I take no handouts and expect no one to help me out of my situation. I am self educated (library cards are free) and constantly trying to improve my situation.

If I hadn't told you those things, you wouldn't know, unlike our spellchecker deficient friend who probably lives in my neighborhood or at least his twin does. The difference is personal responsibility and personal choice.

take the legal guns away and only this model of American citizen ship will have one.
does that make sense?

Dawn
           
 
lehmann520
03/04/10
replied to: Korny
Replied To:  >>You seem very well informed about what goes on at street level.<<...
I would appreciate "gun laws" that lower the prices of legal purchases as well as lift restrictions on ownership.

I am poor and live close to idiots like that spellcheck deficient fool. I NEED a gun. I saved to get one.

People who don't want to break the law and get a gun "under the table" but can't afford them otherwise are the one's who end up as headlines on the news....home invasion kills family of five/sweet little old lady raped and killed/beautiful young woman disappears....gory pictures after the break....

my fifteen seconds will read...woman kills home invader then kisses shotgun... followed by a half hour of talking heads debating whether I had the right to shoot the pr*** and the statistical probability that the bad guy didn't kill me with my own weapon (which is what gun classes are for among other things)

I know this post is off topic but maybe it's time for personal stories about the actual effects of current gun control. If you take my gun away, do you think the home invader is going to play fair and only come after me with a bat?
I'm no match for a man armed with anything. If I did manage to come out of that situation unharmed/unraped, it would be sheer luck. This is why I have a gun. It doesn't guarantee my survival but it evens up the odds and makes luck less of a factor.

How does making me less safe make anyone else more safe?

Dawn
           
 
smokey
03/10/10
replied to: 11durena
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Do not forget that a unarmed society are slaves to the gov. where armed citizens are free.