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juster
We as christians,is it okay for a married woman to undergo faloppian cutting as means of permanent birth control?
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limchris841
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What is faloppian????
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Ecclesiasticus
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The following is about as welcome as a Nazi at a Passover seder, I think.

4 verses -- 1 in Galatians, and 3 in Revelation -- rather nastily condemn use of artificial birth control.

In ancient times, since about 400 b.c., several substances were used by girls in the Roman Empire to disrupt their cycles. The most successful was a tea made out of a desert weed called "silphium." The next most successful was asafoetida, a spice sometimes used in Worchestershire Sauce today. The next most successful was Queen Anne's Lace.

Silphium was a remarkably successful birth control measure. Libya grew rich on its export. The weed, which no one could cultivate, was exported into extinction.

In Roman times, fortune tellers would sell silphium tea and other birth control measures to the girls consulting them about their love prospects with this or that young man. Gradually, the fortune tellers came to have an inventory of many ancient drugs, not just drugs related to sex and birth control. They were the earliest phatmacists!!! (So, those astrological readings for sale next to the cash register at our drug stores are very much a continuation of a centuries-old custom -- the sale of drugs alongside the sale of fortunes.)

So, if ladies dispatched their husbands or boyfriends or servants to the fortune teller's kiosk to purchase silphium or other teas, they would not say, in Greek or Latin, something as embarrassing as, "Go buy some tea so that I can have sex without conceiving." They would euphemize it: Please, go get some pharmakaeia" -- some "pharmacist's stuff," or "drugs."

That pharmakaeia was the Greco-Roman term for birth control measures is verified by the Didache. In that early New Testament Greco-Roman synopsis of the moral law, we see that magiae, pharmakaeia, abortion and infanticide are all strictly prohibited.

"Magiae" were magical incantations against conception.

When we understand that, we comprehend that the Didache included a condemnation of an increasing scale of invasions of the human reproductive function -- words, chemical birth control, abortion, and infanticide.

It is clear, from this context, that when Galatians 1 time, and Revelations 3 times, condemns use of pharmakaeia, translated "drugs" in some Bibles and "sorcery" in other Bibles, it is condemning use of the ancient equivalent of The Pill.

Why? Because there is something innately immoral about drugs as a birth control measure?

No. It is because birth control, which attacks a life function to give the attackers access to sexual pleasure, is in principle immoral. God wants us to wrestle with the problem -- not kill it.
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michaelesso
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That is between the Woman and God.
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Yoda55
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As a Christian, you have accepted God - and Jesus Christ as your Savior. In so doing, you have agreed to follow His commandments and instructions. True?

God considers "good" that which is in step with His plan for this universe. What is in step? All natural processes which He placed in motion... True?

The reproductive system of a woman is a natural system within the universe He made. The system was designed for perpetuating the human species. His comments to Adam and Eve were about going out into the world and 'subduing it'. One dominates the world by reproducing and bringing it under human control.

If God made a system, and expects that it will be used as designed, you have to ask yourself the following question:
"Is this medical procedure for God's purposes (procreation) or for selfish human purposes (feels good)?"

If your answer is the latter, then the purpose is not in accordance with God's plan, ordinances, and expectations. The feelings enjoyed during intercourse are an attraction to encourage the human being to have children and to share intimacy with your spouse. It is not an end unto itself - although people WANT to think so.

I'd answer "NO" to your question.
[Even chemical birth control is against this purpose.]
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zzz444
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I think 'Juster' meant Tubal Ligation which is a medical sterilization prodcedure in which both fallopian tubes are blocked to prevent conception from occuring.
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fullyinformed
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Yes of course it is fine. Birth control and sterilisation and vacsectomies, if used more often would prevent over population, abortions, babies being born who are not planned,

and by the way, birth control and sterilisation and vascectomies do not kill anyone,

The world would be a much better place if more people chose to be responsible like this, instead of continually having more and more children, the planet is only so big, there is a limit to everything, space being one thing, and resources, housing, medical care being other things that are limited, children need all these things, children cannnot survive just by having 2 parents, they require all the above too,
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