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Revolt sweeping the Musslim world!
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D1vidRab
What are the causes for the revolt against the established tyrants in the Arab-Musslim world? Why there has been no revolt in such Musslim but non-arab places like Indonesia? Do you think the wilkileaks information breought about the last straw in the revolting Islamic countries?
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tungamaa
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There will be rulers over you, some of whose actions you will consider good and others abominable. Who even disapproves of their abominable acts will be acquitted of all blame, and whoever resents them he too will remain secure (from all blame); not so one who approves and follows them in their abominable acts. They (i.e. the Companions) asked: 'Should we not fight against them?' The Prophet (peace be on him) said: 'No, not as long as they continue to pray.' (See Bukhari, 'Jihad', 108 - Ed.)

This means that their abandonment of Prayer will be a clear sign of their having forsaken obedience to God and the Prophet (peace be on him). Thereafter it becomes proper to fight against them. In another tradition the Prophet (peace be on him) says:
Your worst leaders are those whom you hate and who hate you; whom you curse and who curse you. We asked: 'O Messenger of God! Should we not rise against them?' The Prophet (peace be on him) said: 'No, not as long as they establish Prayer among you: not as long as they establish Prayer among you.' (See Muslim, 'Amarah', 65, 66; Tirmidhi, 'Fitan', 77; Darimi, 'Riqaq, 78; Ahmad b. Hanbal, Musnad, vol. 6, pp. 24, 28 - Ed.)
In this tradition the position is further clarified. The earlier tradition could have created the impression that it was not permissible to revolt against rulers as long as they observed their Prayers privately. But the latter tradition makes it clear that what is really meant by 'praying' is the establishment of the system of congregational Prayers in the collective life of Muslims. This means that it is by no means sufficient that the rulers merely continue observing their Prayers: it is also necessary that the system run by them should at least be concerned with the establishment of Prayer. This concern with Prayer is a definite indication that a government is essentially an Islamic one. But if no concern for establishing Prayer is noticed, it shows that the government has drifted far away from Islam making it permissible to overthrow it. The same principle is also enunciated by the Prophet (peace be on him) in another tradition, in which the narrator says: 'The Prophet (peace be on him) also made us pledge not to rise against our rulers unless we see them involved in open disbelief, so that we have definite evidence against them to lay before God' (Bukhari and Muslim).

{to me those whom you established them as tyrants; They have really abandon their book-gone to secular system and this is the outcome BUT let us not forget; the birth of a baby, pains and pangs but expecting Best for mankind.}
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D1vidRab
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It is too easy for a tyrant to continue to pray publically in a hypocritical way in order to continue a corrupt regime! Did all the Arab tyrants stop praying at once in the Arab World? What is wrong with just having elections according to the Qorán?
If women are active enough to have health and proper excercise and medical care, no unusual pain is experienced in childbirth, a natural event that many women qualify as a sexualy pleasing experience when there is no fear or shame involved! Why is female circumcicion so common in Muslim cultures?
I am very much surprised that the Wilkyleaks has not caused an explanation based on a conformed conspiracy theory across the world accusing the Mossad/CIA of having been the ones to topple at once such heartless bastards across the Arab World! I believe Ahllah is punishing Islam for such presumptious explanations!
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