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dheeraj8708
Radha soami ji,
main is forum ke members se ye janna chata hu ki kya koi admi black magic se kis ki bhi jaan le sakta hain . baba ji toh kahte hain ke malik ki marzi ke bina ek patta tak nhi hil sakta fir koi kaise black magic se kisi ki jaan le sakta hain
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blm2
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This forum does not enroll/register any membership. Any person can log in and share one's views in this forum.

One should have full faith in, what has been told by BABAJI, unless there is some reason to disbelieve any of BABAJI's teachings and that too having doubt about unethical black magic's claims for it's capability to take away one's life.

Therefore, one should not shake one's faith on such flimsy matters over and above will of the GOD based on one's KARMA account.
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palyal81
Replied to:  Radha soami ji, main is forum ke members se ye janna...
Yes Balck magic hota to hei, par uska asar satsangi par nahi hota,caz
you listen the satsang of guru,
you have darshan of guru
you have prashad of guru,
you have langar of guru,
you have sewa for guru.(not terms in money)
until unless you have the faith,devotion,love in your master.
kala jadu satsangi ke nazdik bhi nahi aa sakta bhai.

The only solution is to MEDITATE.(even if you are not initiated, do thise above or more if you can. & apne MOM, DAD ki sewa karo)
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rajatkwatra
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It means except RSSB followers, whole of the world can suffer from Black magic?
Can it be right?
NO.
There is black magic or not it is not black magic but its applicability can not be decided by anyone according to his or her suitability.
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resonable
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Please stop taking out meanings out of something said by others...its shows prejudice inside you against RSSB.

Read again what she said! there is not a mention of RSSB in her reply.

"SATSANGI" according to her is one who is initiated by the Holy 5 NAAM...whether it be from any source, through RSSB Guru or other GURU's in the world.

If you are initiated and have a complete Guru, then these Black magic and other things cannot make a difference in your life.
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rajatkwatra
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Mr. Totally unreasonable (hidden & coward personality), for your kind information, there is no kala or safed zadu exist in this world. Here only that thing happens, which is the desire of almighty GOD.

You should become satsangi, because you want to pray and love god and not as a coward unable to face the threats in life and thats why resorting to become satsangi.

And you are requested to remain on the earth in your replies. No GURU on this earth can get even 10% of GOD Knowledge then who are you. I just state any mis practice in RSSB and you create question on my knowledge and intention.

I my self state that I do not knew anything and I have a thirst to knew him, love him, pray him, but that desire should not be think as a key to get a rid from pain.

You must be thankful to GOD that he has given you wisdom to understand the things and should not have proud for it. Agar ek bar usne budhi fer dito jis guru ka tum gungan karte ho, usi ki buraiyo ke dhol pitoge.

Ye bhi usi paramatma ka karam hai jo tumhe is guru se milya, agar kahi musalman ya isai ke ghar paida karta to aaj masjid ya church me hote. Vahan par bhi isi paramatma ke hi naam kagungan kisi or naam se kar rahe hote.

Is duniya me akele RSSB guru hi nahi hai, un se pehle bhi kai lakho guru aaye honge or unke jaane ke baad bhi kai lakho guru aayenge. Or kai lakho guru aaj bhi is duniya me hai. Ye sab to bhagwan ka kiya hua hai ki kis ko kis guru se mila de.

Do not always state that only satsangi having naam can be escape from this kala zaadu. There are crores of people who do not have even the food for two times in a day, they are not initiated and will not like that also because there first goal is to get the food first. Will kala zadu will hurt them, what worst that zadu can do for them then the condition in which they are surviving.

You do not think and write on the basis of just tiny knowledge you have. Open your eyes, see this world, there are lacs of army people living on border for more than 24 hours continous duty, will you expect from them, that they will do meditation.

Go to north east, there are tribal people, who can eat any moveable thing including man, do you expect all they will leave their eating habits for NAAM. They are praying there guru and as per their belief, heart is not affected by the food you take and food is must for beating the heart.

Number of more examples are there. Just by sitting in a comfortable room opposite the PC, do not assume every thing about this world.

If GOD has created this world in this way, it is his desire, do not say only and only you are right. ALL are right and nothing is best.
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resonable
Replied to:  Mr. Totally unreasonable (hidden & coward personality), for your kind information,...
Mr. TOtally frustrated and agitated personality,
for your information something you state or say isnt gonna be always right, its like saying "if i cant see GOD then he dosn exist"!

I am totally on earth without the wings.

Yet another statement about something YOU presume by your mind "No GURU on this earth can get even 10% of GOD Knowledge then who are you"

If you are not prejudice over RSSB then why did you not write a letter to RSSB and tried to find answers to your questions, even after knowing that this forum is not represented by any RSSB authority, then seeking answers and raising question here does make you a person NOT trying to find answers by point fingers at a Philosophical society of who's working shouldnt be your concern!

Try finding wisdom in the teachings, as after death NON of these concerns or questions raised on RSSB will help you, nor will any worldy matter/thing. Even your parents and family stays behind. YOU ARE ALONE there. So its a concern for ONESELF....fulfill your duties here on earth towards relatives and workout your way ahead.

I have heard a Quote "MAUT AUR GRAHAK KABHI BATA KAR NAHI ATE".....means death and customer come without telling you the time.

Kab maut ajay....kisi ko kya pata?


how can you assume that I havnt already Thanked GOD for everything yet? everything you mentioned...stays within me 24x7..realising how worst could my life have been.... I thank him for this HUMAN form and onto that , for the connection with a GURU who shows me the path to REAL ALMIGHTY and not the God of this materialistic world(kaal).


"Is duniya me akele RSSB guru hi nahi hai, un se pehle bhi kai lakho guru aaye honge or unke jaane ke baad bhi kai lakho guru aayenge."

I have already said this thing if you had read my post earlier.


See yet again you take it other way around.... i meant SATSANGIS who are initiated, not only RSSBone's


"There are crores of people who do not have even the food for two times in a day, they are not initiated and will not like that also because there first goal is to get the food first. Will kala zadu will hurt them, what worst that zadu can do for them then the condition in which they are surviving."

That is solely because of one's karmas... I am greatful and even you should be that we are actually writing here in front of a PC which has an internet connection....many families dont even have a basic computer...

so for "GOD SAKE", please stop assuming things about me and what I think. I never came up on this forum asking questions or making wrong or right. you started pointing fingers at other or raising questions on others, without getting your doubts/facts cleared by RSSB authority.


"You do not think and write on the basis of just tiny knowledge you have. Open your eyes, see this world, there are lacs of army people living on border for more than 24 hours continous duty, will you expect from them, that they will do meditation."

# LOL, you probably did not understand or not trying to!! I dunno!
but still I will say again that its their Karmas and destiny to where they are settled or working for, WHY THE HELL SHOULD I BE WORRIED ABOUT OTHERS IN SEARCH FOR GOD THAN MYSELF? I wont be linking them up to GOD or its not my duty to!!

they do meditation or not or rather CAN do or CANNOT... why should it be my concern? will those people come and help me in a need ? will they support my family's need? will they come along the journey after death? Answer is A BITTER NO

I dont say that I am not thankful to them for thier sacrifies, I respect them as much as they deserve to be....but again thats something which does not relate MY NEED FOR GOD.

Army and countries were NOT created by GOD and so not were the soldiers.

again.....why should I expect someone to do something for NAAM? when you raise a question then It means that you are hungry for knowledge and love of GOD. but people who dont...then how could they find out? you questioned before and I tried answering...

when people follow traditions and rituals...they dont understand that ALMIGHTY dosnt restrict to these MERE human made things..he is and was always above ALLL OF THIS.

I never stated that only RSSB is lone way to GOD...you should have read my reply and not answered back in RAGE...LOL... I never came up here or went anywhere to raise questions on a society which certainly works for betterment and spritual prosperity.........at satsang centers, its not ONLY satsangies who are allowed... there are people who come for FOOD or cheap utilities.


Change your way of thinking and then try judging me!!

I simply reply according to your ways of questioning..... I suggest you...trying to find answers? write a letteror as always I say " READ BOOKS "
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palyal81
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Who says except RSSB followers whole of the world can suffer from Black magic? I have not said like that, Iam saying The person should meditate regularly to whom he belives in.
jisko usne apna isht/guru banaya hei use meditate kare, toh black majic nahi hota.
& one thing more "SATSANGI DOSEN'T MEANS THE FOLLOWER OF RSSB, IT CAN BE ANY ONE.
samjhya ya hale v samjh nai aai.???
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palyal81
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YES U ARE CORRECT.

& IAM NOT HER IAM "HE "

ITS NOT PAYAL ITS PALYAL

SANDEEP SINGH PALYAL

RADHASWAMI JI.
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