Universal health care
New Health Care Bill Passed!!!
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cherish09
I'm sorry, I don't know about all of you, but I would rather be able to go to the hospital whenever I feel I need to; than have the government decide if I'm sick enough to go. If I need a liver trasplant I don't want the government to tell me when I'll be able to have the procedure. It is complete and utter BS! Next thing you know, we'll be told when we can buy food and what kind!

-Cherish
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1ForAll
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Stop believing insurance companies @ republican party lies.As always they're trying to scare people into believing their bull.You will be able to go to any hospital needed.It will be same as it is now.If you need to go to the hospital the insurance,( whether it be private,medicaid or medicare},prefer you to call your Doctor first.The reason for this is if the Doctor thinks he can help you at his office it is cheaper.If you think it's an emergency,the Doctor's closed,or you just feel more comfortable going to the hospital because of your particular ailment you can still go.Actually private insurance puts more restrictions on paying for them circumstances and you would be stuck paying the bill.Have you been to ER lately. It's around $1000 minimum.That's one of the main reasons for this whole reform idea in the first place.You watch how this all plays out.The only thing that will change is the ability of insurance companies to screw us and have less money to pay off the politicians.By the way which party was fighting so hard against health reform again. I think I forgot,did you.Don't ,I won't. 1FORALL
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outfctrl
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God, you must live under a rock if you believe this healthcare bill is good for us.
Nearly one-third of physicians may leave medicine healthcare bill passes

Over 50% predict the bill will cause the quality of medical care to deteriorate

40.7% stated it would "decline or worsen somewhat," while another 14.4% stated that the quality of medical care would "decline or worsen dramatically".
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1ForAll
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Well THE republicans said the almost exact same thing about social security program and medicare. I believe it was Gerald Ford in 1967 denouncing medicare and threating to repeal it. Obviously they did't because it would have been political suicide and I believe the same here. We need to give lower income people a fricking break.Right now they die sooner from not getting preventive care to stop alot of illnesses before they get far progressed and more expensive which eventually fall on all of us tax payers anyway. We might as well pay less now and save more lives by making sure everyone has coverage.I don't know your personal circumstances but people out there struggling will be helped in one way or another.Really I believe medicare for all would work best. Not only would it be affordable,it would never go broke because the healthy people in it,and the doctors would have stay participating because thats what everybody has.You know there is a lot negative things you could argue about a program of that but because the fact that everybody would have insurace,kind of like everybody having to carry auto insurance,It would definitly be the lesser of the two EVILS. 1FORALL THANKS
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outfctrl
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Yea? Look at it now. Social Securiy is going broke. When will you liberal progressives learn. Excuse me, health care will reduce the deficit? OMG....I am rolling on the floor laughing. The government always under estimates the cost.
One word for you people that believe Obama....GULLIBLE

My kids, your kids will be taxed till they are broke. WAKE UP!
http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/RetirementandWills/InvestForRetirement/is-america-about-to-go-broke.aspx

No wonder our great Country is going to the dogs. It is people like you that are causing it
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1ForAll
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Thats the problem conservatism caused.You changed the amount of payments Gov't employed workers receive so only the really dedicated public servants stay or the people at the bottom of their field no matter how they try or even though they mean well they just don't the skill or funds to fight the abuses or scams of the private sector like corporations and banks.They intentionally set the system up this way so they could almost do whatever they want without any serrious opposition.Not caring who it hurt as long as they got richer.Thats why the middle is disappearing at an alarming rate.We need the middle class.Thats what the AMERICAN DREAM was built on.Most people would be happy being middle class.Greed from the top 10% is what is destroying OUR COUNTRY.What ever happened to 1forall @ allfor1.What ever happened to helping your neighbor.What ever happened to our morals where we were all in this together instead of everone for themselves and the hell with anybody else.It's a sad day of the times.I don't want my kids learning them kind of lessons. 1FORALL
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outfctrl
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No, thats the problem with liberalism. Gimme, gimme, gimme...

Bigger government so you wont have to work for it. Richer get richer? HELLO? Who do you think gives people jobs? The poor?
The middle class will be taxed for this healthcare.

Whatever happened to work for what you want. I did, my whole life. No one gave me anything.

I am done. You cant talk common sense with a liberal.

Historically, the best way to convert liberals is to have them move out of their parents' home, get a job, and start paying taxes. But if this doesn't work, you might have to actually argue with a liberal. This is not for the faint of heart. It is important to remember that when arguing with liberals, you are always within inches of the "Arab street." Liberals traffic in shouting and demagogy. In a public setting, they will work themselves into a dervish-like trance and start incanting inanities: "Bush lied, kids died!" "racist!" "fascist!" "fire Rumsfeld!" "Halliburton!" Fortunately, the street performers usually punch themselves out eventually and are taken back to their parents' house.
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1ForAll
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That just proved my point.All about yourself. who cares about the people that worked their whole lives and almost lost everthing and some did. Thank God I wasn't one of them.I would Help someone in that predicament if I could.AS long as it wasn't something they caused themselves.Alot of people got stuck holding bag because of other people's @ institutions bad or greedy decisions.These same people got saved @ in some cases actually made money.These are people I'm pissed at.They took alot of good and unsuspecting people that trusted them with them.These people worked and owned houses,(like me),and got caught up their game.I got news for you.ITS NO GAME TO THEM.And they got rescued with our and your tax money.Thats who's saying GIMME GIMME GIMME.Help the main street people just keep what they had before this disaster.Nothin more.Just being able to live like a civalized person.Not ecessivly like some do while others starve IN AMERICA.Do YOU! think this is how things should be ,honestly. 1FORALL YEAH EVEN YOU.
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outfctrl
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Oh yea, I remember the housing thing. I bought my house in 1998 and the bank tried to talk me into that variable rate. Promised lower payments too. It was tempting, but I didnt bite.
Guess what? I still have my house and my payments havent changed a bit, except property taxes. I wasnt greedy and tried to get something for nothing.

These people who bought houses way over for what they could afford because the low interest rate on the variable rate made it affordable. Shall we say, greed? Yes sir. Now, we have to feel sorry for them. It all started with Clinton. Then the house became a Dem majority in 2006. Then Barney Frank. Give these poor people homes no matter what the cost. Homes for everyone! YEp. The Republicans warned the bleeding heart libs that the market would crash, but did they listen?
Soooo....here we are today? Thank you Dems for the recession
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1ForAll
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I agree with you on the ones that knew what the they were doing. I'm talking about the people who just wanted their own house,which we all strive for.Most were tricked or had these bull loans dangled in front of them.The ones giving these loans were out for a quick buck putting us all at risk.They knew eventually it would all come crashing in hoping they had made and had long been gone.I didn't fall for them ploys either but if I wanted a house bad enough I might fell for the same bull also,thinking I have good job,I'll refi in a couple years not knowing the bottom would drop out putting so many jobs at risk affecting so many,even the people that did it the right way.I don't feel sorry for the ones that knew exactly what was up.But what what about the ones that knew what possibly might happen and it did.Nothing happened to the ones that profited the most.I do agree with you to a point.I guess we all had a hand in it but there were people that knew better. 1FORALL PS I really do want all to do well just the right and fair way. (bought my house in 99}.
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There are substantial uncovered costs that a supplemental policy can help with.A benefit is a health care service or supply that is paid for in part or in full by Medicare.
http://medicarenewsline.com/
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dsdseo5
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I agree with you on the ones that knew what the they were doing.
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cherish09
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Outfctrl

Thank-you sooo much!!


We must be talking to a democrat.
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cherish09
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Hermiedick7


Ok, dude/chick for one, you sound like a complete dumbass...the correct way to say that would be, no, now the obess will get free health care.

And two...no body is getting free anything nowa days! Yoou can't even go to the friggen hospital when you want to!

And three, that's not free health...that would probably kill them, so in turn it's really free death; not free health.

Have a friggen spectaculary splendid day :)
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alitude14a
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Exactly! Its so unconstitutional. The goverment does not have that kind of authority to just tell us what we have to and can't have.
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