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NKingston
As I listen to the news and read daily my emails from CAIR (Council on American-Islamic Relations) about the frenzy regarding the so-called mosque near Ground Zero being turned into an Islamic Center, I wonder about the basis for moving it further away from Ground Zero which politicians say is based on "sensitivity" issues. If the government were to make a precedent based on "sensitivity issues" to move a Muslim place of worship or Islamic facility of any type, wherein all Muslims are accused of being responsible for 9/11, I would think with the tragedy of the natives of America who were indeed victims of terrorism by the pilgrims which makes every inch of land on U.S. soil hallowed ground to them, and when you consider the Murray Federal Building that was bombed by a Christian named Timothy McVeigh, and the Branch Davidian Barbecue in Waco, Texas, etc., etc., etc., and worst of all when considering the high rate of anti-Islamic activities such as mosque bombing and terrorism against Muslims here in America, wouldn't such a precedent justify "based on sensitivity issues" having all Christians and their chapels, temples, and places of worship removed from the U.S. as well?

Across the globe, what message is being sent to Muslims and non-Muslims alike about the United States of America? Who demonstrates that their religion is a terrorist religion more than those Christians persecuting Muslims for Jesus' sake? Then when they go to other countries and do the same thing and get prosecuted for doing the same thing and violating the laws of the land they are only guests in, word comes home to America that they were being persecuted for Jesus' sake! Christians don't get persecuted for anyone's sake. They deservingly get prosecuted, executed, and punished because that is what they deserve. American Muslims fight in the American military to defend our country. American Muslims are actively involved in peace keeping missions at many levels of government. American Muslims are peace loving people. American Muslims don't trash the public buses and streets with Islamic literature. American Muslims don't use brain washing techniques to bring people back to Islam because it is in conflict with what their Holy Scriptures teach. American Muslims... they follow two constitutions in the United States that go hand in hand and do not conflict - The Qur'an and the United States Constitution. That's why you only see Christian politicians trying to change the 14th Amendment. To be a Christian is to be an enemy of the United States of America based on the reasoning Christians, particularly Christian politicians like Newt Gingrich, are using against the establishment of the Islamic Center near Ground Zero. I support, therefore, the request to move the Islamic Center a few blocks further away ONLY if all Christians remove ALL of their churches, temples, facilities, and Christian-related public items AND ESPECALLY THEIR TERRORIST RELIGION from ALL American soil first.

All America is hallowed ground because Christians acquired it through terrorist acts against the natives, and they continue to make it more hallowed to Muslims because this is where Muslims are being persecuted, killed, having their mosques and other facilities bombed, and threatened by Christian terrorists, thus making all Christians guilty of all terrorist activities on United States soil. Based on the reasoning behind this frenzy, I can't understand for the life of me how being a Christian can even justify true patriotism, but I can see how people across the globe can see America as the Great Satan. The devil, Christian Americans that is, make them see it that way.

Tell me what you think.

Nono
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Silent
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Hi Nono...

You've touched a very delicate and sensitive issue here...I can't understand...why being an American ..would you like to become so blunt and truthful about Americans!

I'm NOT an American...yet I've been 'blessed' to know quite a few Americans in my life..and the knowledge has not only greatly affected my opinion and my understanding about American individauls but also America as a SO-CALLED GREAT PROUD FREE NATION...

I personally have many second toughts for the words like GREAT, PROUD , FREE...and perheps for SO-CALLED too...lol!

Still I feel we have no right to JUDGE beyond the 'limits'..American/America has set in...it's like this is for me ..this is for you...and this is for us...etc...and all are 'different'...

What I feel is that they are not a NATION..AT ALL (I know I'm offending you..and can expect different consequences inturn...but it's just a routine happening now...lol)

So I was saying that I feel they are GREAT in sense ..Alexender was GREAT...They are PROUD in a sense...PHAROAH was PROUD...they are FREE in the sense..ANIMALS can be FREE..

No they can NEVER ACCEPT others from hearts..whether it is the matter of gender, color, race or ethinicity...their judgment and their actions can never be FAIR...
Because...FAIRNESS comes from heart and 'heart' should know to love, respect and honour others...equally, justfully..

The situation you have explained in your post seems to be a GREAT CONPIRACY (may be internal as par the 'figures' straightened out)...of what their 'rules' are...Never Let Others LIVE..NOR ..DIE...LOL!

They won't let the WARS be OVER..whether you fight them or not..So I think 911 is just a miracle to show the world AMERICA'S TRUE FACE...

.....AN KICK THEIR A**ES....!!!!!!!!!!!

Silent
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NKingston
Replied to:  Hi Nono... You've touched a very delicate and sensitive issue...
Hey there, Silent.

Absolutely, you do not offend me. We can disagree with or misunderstand each other and still have a healthy debate or discussion, but that's what forums are for. I welcome your input always, so never think you are offending me unless you are intentionally trying to. (Chuckle)

What you are witnessing in America right now is quite a complicated matter that is definitely going to turn into a civil war between those who support the Constitution of the United States of America (namely the Muslims and those who believe in, have read, and understand the Qur'an as well as those who believe in the United States Constitution) versus those who are fear mongers, terrorists, and enemies of the Constitution of the United States (namely mainstream Christians).

Unfortunately, the battle is going to become bloody and many are definitely going to die in this civil war. Secession will be seen in our life time, and help from nations outside the United States will come to our rescue. These allies of the United States will become Al Qaeda and Muslim states because these two groups are the ones that are persecuted by Christians the most. Christian terrorists, on the other hand, will become the greatest threat to innocent civilians in their war against their own country.

Famous politicians are forthright in pursuing this war of Christians versus the United States government. The conclusion will be and allie of Iran nuking the Louisiana Purchase states. This will not only end the war, but it will end the United States as a one union due to the nuclear divide forming three or four separate countries all bearing the name "The United States of America." One of them will become "The Northern United States of America." Another will become "The Southern United States of America." Another will become known as "The Western United States of America." The fourth will be embedded in the three and will be known as "The United States of America," but this country will not be able to accept secession and will continue to be at war with the three other forms of the United States of America until Judgment Day unless we can remove all Christian terrorists from U.S. soil.

This is where this NY Islamic Center matter along with all the other anti-Muslim terrorist activities going on throughout the United States is heading. If this NY Islamic Center is not permitted to be built and established based on "sensitivities," the United States will lose the war to preserve the Constitution's basic rights to all citizens. If this NY Islamic Center is permitted to be built and established in spite of the "sensitivities" being proclaimed, Christian terrorists, including politicians blatantly anti-Islam, will lead a war against their own government and seek secession. Either way, a civil war is extremely evident, sad, and terrifying.

America's current government is set up well and in harmony with the Qur'an and basic civil and human rights, but the true terrorists are those who engage in military action that is unauthorized by their own government. After all the damage is done and irreparable, they will be defeated and responsible for the countless deaths resulting from their anti-American and terroristic behavior. Nevertheless, in spite of defeat, they will still continue to wage war against American Muslims.

Hoping you're not in the crossfires to come.

Nono
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NKingston
Replied to:  Hey there, Silent. Absolutely, you do not offend me....
Keith Olbermann is one of my favorite news people. Here is an interesting video on the protest at the Islamic Center near Ground Zero:

http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?et=1103632664781&s=8261&e=001YDtww2c05v9devesGBoaXQv5tI8UReCHuqqKeKTk-5wxj_oYrl6A2OWSNG1IPOKBhRehH-k4Z0H0NmfUoCYchRBYh483Nza37I5Nmb42AsfBFLM15DuVSZwh55yJn5Wyh3g_g64qWH2AjsJBxKXeog==
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NKingston
Replied to:  As I listen to the news and read daily my emails...
I have been watching the news a lot about this subject. Boy, our terrorist enemies are no different than us Americans. Is this who we, as Americans, are? Is this Islamaphobia representative of the Christian Americans? If so, what a low and an insult to the American people!

Nono
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Jihad is very much mistaken by non-musslems. Jihad means life time fighting over food and shelter. because musslem countries are very very poor.rich musslems are not helping poor because they fear that they will take over them one day and then non-musslems will laugh at them.
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Replied to:  Jihad is very much mistaken by non-musslems. Jihad means life time...
They aren't mistaken; its simply that the extremists have taken the term and overused it to the point that most people are ignorant of the fact that it has a totally separate meaning to Muslims.
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