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uttam10
Maharaj,

Mujhe do baar bulaya gaya par naam nahi diya. yeh matter clear nahi ho raha hai ki kab milaga. kyon mujhe bulateho aur nahi dete. khud bhi pareshan hote ho aur mujhe bhi pareshan karte ho. aap ke anusar mera time nahi aayaa. to kiase pata chalega ki time kab hai. hone ke baad. honi aur anhoni hone ke baad hi maloom hota hai. be practicle. mera kaam karo bhale hi mujha kuch profit ho ya na ho par issse aap ka bhi pind chute aur main aap ka picha na karooon. mujhe 2 times apne paas bulaya, matlab main marked ship hoon aur aap ko isliya bhejagaya hai ki mujhe is ruhaniyat ki khaiee main dhakka maro. to boss maro laat aur chepter close karo. boss aap bolne layak ho jaoge ki maine to diya par tune kuch nahi kiya. ab to main aap ko hi target karta hoon, kyonki aap satguru hain. sabkuch aap jante hain par mujhe bhi to maloom hona chahiya na. sab kuch apne upar mat lo, taaki main dependent na ho jaoon.
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susingh
Replied to:  Maharaj, Mujhe do baar bulaya gaya par naam nahi diya....
The above representation is full of blame as also a threat and not a request by some RSSB disciple!

Please note that this forum is neither visited/viewed by BABAJI nor by any other representative of RSSB. Hence question/topic, if any, raised on this forum, should not be addressed to BABAJI/Maharaj. One can raise any topic/question on this forum without expecting any reply from either of them, more so because all questions/topics, raised on this forum, are responded/shared by public only.

Hence fresh representation/request, for NAAMDAAN, be sent in the same manner as had been sent earlier two times.

It is also pointed out that one should be submissive and very polite while requesting for NAAMDAAN instead of showing your grudge/anger, to the master/GURU, in the above manner, since use of above language for one's master is quite objectionable for any of RSSB disciples.
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rajatkwatra
Replied to:  Maharaj, Mujhe do baar bulaya gaya par naam nahi diya....
May be because of such rude behaviour, you have been rejected. Or otherwise also it looks that you do not knew the worth of NAAM and wants to take for sake only, thats why it has not been given to you.
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resonable
Replied to:  Maharaj, Mujhe do baar bulaya gaya par naam nahi diya....
1. Apko bulaya nahi jata...apni marji se insaan NAAM lene ki iccha zahir krta hai..

2. Apke jaise bohot cases honge jinhe wait krna padta hai...for reasons unknown to our mere intelligence.

3. jitna zor lagaoge utna hi apne ko neeche paoge...sab uspe chord kar effort karo..bas iccha ke saath jao...aur naam ki daya mango...na mile to jo instruction di jati hai...follow kro.

4. Na hi aap pehle insaan ho aur hi akhiri jisko iss phase se gujarna pada hai..."be practicle" ki to baat hi chordo

5. Guru se NAAM ki bheek maang rahe ho ya dost se?

6. pind chute? Ye basha saaf bata rhi hai....apko adhoora gyaan hai RSSB aur BABA ji ke baare mein....Books padho

7. ruhaniyat ki khaai? O BHAI!! kaunsi gaflat mein ho?? apne facts clear karo

8. chapter close karo? read books BOSS

9. Apke andar vo respect nahi dikhti mujhe jo kisi Guru ke liye hona chaiye..aur fir aap Baba Ji se Anmol NAAM DAAN ki baksheesh maang rahe ho ...iss tarah??
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palyal81
Replied to:  Maharaj, Mujhe do baar bulaya gaya par naam nahi diya....
Firstly
Every body can see which kind of respect & anger you are presenting in front of babaji,
what you you mean by.... khud bhi pareshan hote ho aur mujhe bhi pareshan karte ho.?????
be polite & heve some manners...
some were you are saying close the chapter & some were you are saying aap satguru ho. If you are aware he is satguru then you should have NO DOUBT & NO QUESTION. &
STOP SAYING BOSS. BOSS BOSS BOSS....!!!!!!11
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uttam10
Replied to:  1. Apko bulaya nahi jata...apni marji se insaan NAAM lene ki...
Dear Reasonable,
Please instruct me, what I will do?
1. Apko bulaya nahi jata...apni marji se insaan NAAM lene ki iccha zahir krta hai..

Ans: As per babaji koi bhi apni marji se naam ki iccha nahi karta, jo marked ship hota hai use ya to parmatma ki taraf se ya babaji ki taraf se bulaba aata hai. Yeh us insaan ko maloom nahi hota. Par mujhe itna to pata chala jane ke baad ki mujhe bulaya gaya.

2. Apke jaise bohot cases honge jinhe wait krna padta hai...for reasons unknown to our mere intelligence.

Ans: Sirji mujhe kaise pata chalaga vah unknown reason ke bare main. Main kya karoon.

3. jitna zor lagaoge utna hi apne ko neeche paoge...sab uspe chord kar effort karo..bas iccha ke saath jao...aur naam ki daya mango...na mile to jo instruction di jati hai...follow kro.

Ans: umeed to karni padti hai sir, insaan jo hain. Fir koi instruction nahi milta. Bus agli baar aao. Ab kyon nahi? No body clear that. Koi kami hai to bolo taki door karne ki koshish Karen.

4. Na hi aap pehle insaan ho aur hi akhiri jisko iss phase se gujarna pada hai..."be practicle" ki to baat hi chordo

Ans: Insaan hain aur is kalyug main tto practicle to hana hi hai, sirji is paar ke hain urbaar ke nahi hain. Jab honge baat hi nahi karenge.

5. Guru se NAAM ki bheek maang rahe ho ya dost se?

Ans: Aap ko bura laga isliya mafi par Mere liye guru ko difine nahi kar sakte. Voh ek dost, maa, baap, bhai aur bahut kuch ho sakta hai.

6. pind chute? Ye basha saaf bata rhi hai....apko adhoora gyaan hai RSSB aur BABA ji ke baare mein....Books padho

Ans: Malik books padhke hi yeh haal hai. Poora gyan to milne ke baad hi hoga na.

7. ruhaniyat ki khaai? O BHAI!! kaunsi gaflat mein ho?? apne facts clear karo

Ans: Ruhaniyat main koi swim nahi kar sakta hai. Yahan doobna padta hai, jaise maine books main padha hai.

8. chapter close karo? read books BOSS

Ans: Jab bardaast na ho to kya Karen. Kaise pind chutayan. Books padhne se kuch nahi hota. Please guide me.

9. Apke andar vo respect nahi dikhti mujhe jo kisi Guru ke liye hona chaiye..aur fir aap Baba Ji se Anmol NAAM DAAN ki baksheesh maang rahe ho ...iss tarah??
Ans: sab ka bolna hai ki gunge ka gud hai, par gud mile to gunga hojaen, sayad aap ko mil gaya hai. Bhuka mangta hai, nahi milta hai to kya karega?
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resonable
Replied to:  Dear Reasonable, Please instruct me, what I will do? 1. Apko...
1. Ye sahi hai ki marked ships hote h naam lene wale...lekin agar apko next time ane ke liye kaha gaya h to uske peeche koi to reason hoga....mera matlab ichashakti se tha...agar apki will power h NAAM lene ke prati to koshish krte raho...agar bola jata h next time ane ke liye to uske saath instructn jaroor di jati h..jaise ki...books padho...aur satsang suno....particular time baad ana...etc etc
Mjhe pata h ...its difficult to try nd try again n again and people loose hope.....ye samjhlo BABA ji apki pariksha le rhe hai...agar next time ke liye bola ja rha h to koi doubt mat rakho.....vo janijaan hain....acha bura sab pata h unhe....agar aap iss baat ko mante ho to apna effort karo...but if u questn his or selection procedure then it means you doubt on him and his decision.

2. Apko wait krne ko bola hai to ismein kya matlab nikal skta h?? Mjhe bhi nahi pata but jaisa bola hai waisa karo....samjh lo ye imtehaan ka time h

waise main abhi NAAM daan ke liye eligible bhi nahi hu bt mjhe itna pata hai ki agar agey mjhe wait krne ko bola jata hai to main bina doubt ya questn ke karunga...jaisi uss dayal ki marzi...uska decision sar ankho par...vo satguru hain...

3. Aap ye socho...Baba ji ko naam dene mein kya problem hogi?? Kuch nahi!! Bt apka time nahi aya hoga isiliye agey ka time dete hain...during dis period..aap satsang suno aur sab Baba ji pe chord do...

4. Insaan to hain par kya books aur satsang sunne ke baad pako ye nahi pata laga ki Agar GURU pariksha leta hai to uske peech koi matlab hota h....har baat apko bata di jaye to fir uski value kahan rhi?

5. Mujhe bura lagne se kya hoga? Ye to apke upar hai...
Its not only me who found your post to be down on respect towards what you seek....
apke liye GURU ki definition kuch bhi ho skti h...bt agar apne jaise bola..books padhi hain....to fir Guru ki value ka to pata hoga....kya vo 'BOSS' jaise shabad ke layak hai?
messgae mein ek clear suggestion de rahe ho jinko sab pata hai....mante ho? Kya vo sahi h!

6. Apne kitni books padhi h? Iska matlab apko abhi aur books padhni chaiye!
ye haal main samjh skta hu...

7. Apne jo padha vo sahi hai....but apne words/shabad naap tol ke use karo...main to itna hi bata skta hu ki is duniavi bhasha se ruhaniyat to define karna impossible hain...vo usse bohot upar hai

8. Maine dekha hai aur bohot baar suna hai...hota h..tadap uthti h naam ke liye...par guru ko sab pata h...apko parakh rhe h vo....books ya satsang sunne se kuch nahi hota to fir kisse hoga?
Roohani diary 1 nd 2 padho agar nahi padhi hain to

9. Apne andar vishwas rakho...tutne mt do...mjhe nahi mila naam...bt itna janta hu jab samay ayega tab jaisa bolenge waisa hi karunga...questns nahi uthaunga...aap to 2 baar mein hi haar gaye....log saalo saal try krte h....jab samay ata hai tab Naam ki baksheesh ho jati h
bhuka maangta rehta h jabtak usse nahi milta...vo questn nahi krta...abhi kyu nahi dia tab kyu nahi dia....jab samay ata h tabhi bhook mit ti hai
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rajatkwatra
Replied to:  1. Ye sahi hai ki marked ships hote h naam lene...
Mr. reasonable ( Hidden identity). The feelings expressed by RSSB follower, trully stating the real truth of number of satsangis, who are running behind name just for its sake.
They think it a key for freedom from their pain and thats why got angered by delay in getting it.
You have once stated me persistent non follower, because I was stating the true facts of number of persons who are writing in discussion forum and who have become so much coward that they can not face pain in life and running for getting NAAM as they think it will end their pain.
Now what you will say, the facts are now before you and even consistent followers have this in mind. Now you will ask him also non follower.
You must understand in depth before writing something.
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resonable
Replied to:  Mr. reasonable ( Hidden identity). The feelings expressed by RSSB follower,...
Yes Mr. Rajatkwatra (your name really helps you *_*)

I have agreed before that People run for NAAM just for the sake of it because as there are different levels of understanding they are in early stages i.e in school wanting to study PhD.

Please do not worry about my understanding, worry about yours!!

I just hope that you be blessed by God one day to what RSSB's philosophy states and the truth about the existence of Guru persona!

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rajatkwatra
Replied to:  Yes Mr. Rajatkwatra (your name really helps you *_*) I...
For you THOTHA CHANA BAAJE GHANA & ADHJAL GAGRI CHALKAT JAAYE.

If you knew there meaning as they are applicable on you, it is better, else get it understood by your seniors.

Really, in this world no one can escape from EGO, even a person has got just a little bit knowledge about any subject, he or she think that they have become teacher or may be master on that subject and all other living being are fool on this earth.

They must be allowed to remain in that illusion. Same is for people like you.
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uttam10
Replied to:  For you THOTHA CHANA BAAJE GHANA & ADHJAL GAGRI CHALKAT...
Dear Mr. Raja Kwatra / Mr. Reasonable

Yes sir, my question is who told you that and how you think that everyone is following for naam daan due to escaping from the pain of life. Further I don’t think that taking of naam daan is ending of life’s pain. For your kind information I am very new in this line and try to clarify the ego or me or I. I know that when you meet yourself within you, you meet parmatma. It means parmatma is with us in the means of I or ego. Please refer Khuda = Khud + Aa

Further I am trying to collect the information from the seniors or even very much seniors from this route but they don’t want to confirm anything, because they are bound to hide all of these things.



Further it is an endless discussion. As per babaji; be practical, sit in a meditation [Chanting of Naam as given by babaji in his way] and wait for your turn, you will get what you want. You want means the food of ruhaniyat. And even only taking of naam daan is not sufficient to enter in to ruhaniyat.

School main naam likhane se kuch nahi hota. Naam likhane ke baad school jaana padta aur padhai bhi karni padti hai varna school se dhakka de ke nikal diya jaata hai. To padhai karne ke liya school me admission to karna padta hai na. Agar admission nahi mile to follow 3 idiots. All is well and enter in any school as you like as like what I am doing now. Further please don’t think that I am taking naam from others. I will wait for the same school but in case of attending the school and reading I can do it from other schools also.
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resonable
Replied to:  Dear Mr. Raja Kwatra / Mr. Reasonable Yes sir, my...
I very well know that people who understand the reason behind NAAM, will get initiated for the sole purpose of helping themself from doing bhajan/simran and reduce thier Karma's

But there are some people who think that Taking NAAM will reduce the karmas by itself, is the major lack of knowledge about it.

They need to understand that it makes them strong from inside.
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skk23
Replied to:  Dear Mr. Raja Kwatra / Mr. Reasonable Yes sir, my...
Dear Brother Uttam, While going thru all the above discussion I personally feel that you really have great urge to dive into the deep sea of Ruhaniyat. And you are eagerly waiting to get a Naam Daan as soon as possible. I also felt that you have also understood that without Naam Dan you cannot enter into Ruhaniyat. Hence I understand your anger and restlessness in your language. But dear brother, please keep aside all such discussion and have faith in Babaji as you are destined to get Naam Daan. Fruit taste sweet only when it is ripped. So wait a while till the fruit is ripped. You will taste the nectar only at the right time. Meanwhile please keep cool and enjoy satsang. RSG
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