Human cloning
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taylaluvsu
Is human cloning possible? I'm new to this website and I'm not as well-informed as some people on here. I ask simple but important questions. If cloning humans becomes possible, wouldnt that just make our population problem worsen?
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JonRichfield
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Technically it certainly is possible. How far the necessary technique has developed to date, I do not know. For the foreseeable future it would have no important effects on human population or any similar concerns. At the moment the human population is increasing at the rate of perhaps two people per second. This amounts to roughly 60,000,000 people per year. And counting. It would take a lot of cloning to achieve anything within screaming distance of making a meaningful difference to that sort of population growth. in fact we would not have any realistic prospect of even denting the figures for natural cloning: identical twins. there are over 1 million of them per year alone.

Producing clones artificially is a technology intensive, labour intensive, expensive process. However suppose that we did develop the means to produce clones at the rate of say 100,000 per day. What would that mean? Would it mean 100,000 extra people per day? Hardly! It would mean a jug of cells, each ready to develop into an embryo, given a suitable womb. where do we get our hundreds of thousands of willing women from? and how would we convince them that they should be raising our clones, rather than their own children? And would that mean a population increase? Not necessarily either. It takes quite a bit of time and development to get from an embryo to a baby.

But okay, you've got your 100,000 babies. Your new army. Or perhaps your rubber stamps of everybody's favourite politician or movie star. Right? So now what happens? Do they spring into action? Well, that is not so simple. Even if no Herod seeks them out to destroy them before they displace him, it still will take roughly 20 years and heavy investment before they are fully functional. but still okay, somehow you do it. And now all your new heroes get into lockstep and go out to conquer the world, right?
Hmmm... maybe. But if that is some sort of leader or super soldier that you are cloning, then it sounds to me like a very implausible scenario. There is no incompatibility greater than a similarity of tastes, especially the taste for domination. It sounds to me as though your clones would end up like the Kilkenny cats.
So die of terror if you like, just thinking about the possibility, but pardon me if I do not join you just yet.
Go well, and if you meet 10 of me, be nice!
Jon

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andrew99
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Human cloning is theoretically possible but no one (so we believe) has done it yet. Its like holding your finger on the trigger of a rifle for 6 hours just waiting for an opportunity to use it.

As far as the population is concerned, of course the population would grow but bear in mind that the clone is a baby with identical features and characteristics as the original but it has to grow-up same as anything else.

Have no fear, you may be just as well-informed as the rest of them but they have a stronger desire to dominate.

regards,
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karra
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Cloning human beings might be possible since scientists already experimented it to animals!!! but the way it might be risk the population would be depend on the way of what is the purpose why they were made..
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j0n1
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No because chanses are cloning whould be strictly cotroled by the government due to ethical concerns
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JonRichfield
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Well, forgive me, but if I had to rely on government control and government ethics to manage anything so important, I'd be scared witless.

Robert Burns wrote:

Morality, thou deadly bane,
Thy tens o' thousands thou hast slain!
Vain is his hope, whose stay and trust is
In moral mercy, truth and justice!

But then, Burns was an optimist!

The ethical controls of governments are run by clerks with power complexes and bossed by politicians, people who if they knew anything worth knowing and cared for anything but their images and pockets, would be something other than politicians.

No, my stay and trust in this matter is that it will be a long time before human cloning amounts to anything, and that whatever it amounts to, it will have practically nothing to do with population growth. If we are unbelievably lucky it might have something to do with population quality, but that would have to be very lucky indeed.

A far more valuable field would be human genetic modification.

Just to cheer you all up!

Jon
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j0n1
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i dont like government contral that was just a prediction and i do think that in the event of a clone child becoming an reality that child protetive services should keep a small eye so there right to life liberty and the persuet of hapeness dosent disaper

mabe they should just separite sciane fropm politics
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