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adriponic
I have in mind my first encounter with the word "matter"....
MATTER CANNOT BE CREATED NOR DESTROYED.

Is this in the present state of science completely true?

Could matter be "something" that can replicate itself?

Is matter subjected to some sort of metabolism, consuming
its own energy?

Any scientific views in this field?

           
 
EddyWords
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Matter has to do with physical reality and from what I understand; it starts with pure energy and then energy is converted into matter that consists of sub-particles, particles, electrons, nuetrons, atoms, Molecules then physical matter. Some where in this process there is a system that provides the function and design of Physical reality like DNA. Non-physical incorproreal concepts, laws and time have a cause and effect on physical reality.
Energy plus matter plus Control factor equals Reality.
It is all about building blocks, continuity, design and function.
           
 
mememe123
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Yes, this is still completely true. Matter can be changed and transformed into new substances. I don't think that matter "exactly" rplicates itself but i do beleive that there could be something that allows matter to recycle and reuse its own energy. ...??
           
 
EddyWords
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Me to me,me,me,123....
I see matter as energy on steroids with the capacity to morph into complex compounds and structures that fit into a system of cohesive reality that has the capacity to provide a functional and dynamic system of physical reality. This energy is motivated by a highly intelligent electronic system of comprehensive dynamics that maintains the overall basis for a prolific and controlled universal matrix.
I have four books that are available on Kindle Books called "Earthland:...." that goes into details on my theories of rational function.
           
 
quantum
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Expression(T = M E) which means time is the product of mass and energy ,and (e=t) energy time equivalence can prove that matter can be created and destroyed. But may just be in some cases.

To create is by gravitation, and to destroy is by no means of gravitation and allowing in its particle's independent time dimensions in space.

Better read about Albert Einstein discussion
           
 
EddyWords
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I would like to make you aware of some thoughts I have worked up on the subject of time, change, and matter.
Throughout the reality we experience is a continuum of change. Time is a given sequence of events in that continuum.
Everything that happens in our plane of existence is happening at the same time in the present.
The past no longer exists and the future is the product of transition from past to future.
Physical matter in our plane of existence is a collection of particles like Legos that are programmed to change in a sequence of events as physical reality, locations, forms and substance that change through energy, design and function as they provide meaningful reality.
That being said, it is my contention that time equals a measurement of a sequence of events in progressive change. Some change is constructing while other change is deteriorating. Thus Time equals energy plus change in a block of reality as relationships, mass, forms and distances change.
Gravitation is the force that holds physical mass together and repulsion is the force that moves matter apart.
Intelligence is the force that provides form, function, relationships and sequence of events that is meaningful.
Physical Reality equals form, function, continuity and purpose.
Rational reality equals organization, intent and meaningfulness.
Expression (R = M + C + D) (R = Reality) (M = mass) (C = change) (D = Direction) "Direction" as in intended results.


           
 
quantum
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Thanks for reply, i would like to clarify some of what you believe.
The only reality about matter and itself physical reality is the thing you call as continuum of change.
This continuum only happened by mass and energy interaction,so the continuum is always towards future.
Direction is the meaning of future,direction is the result of change.
Change is the result(product) of mass and energy therefore time changes,the evidence is by having past,present and future
All of this are sum of reality.

Not everything that happens in our plane of existence is happening at the same t=me in the present.

I'm here in the Philippines our time is 4pm,i don't know where part are you in earth,your t=me is different than in my t=me.

We can point out where is the east and west as earth's other side is always facing sun in the continuum of time.
If past is no longer exist in the west future will also be no longer exist in the east. In other word we can say that we do have present because past and future exist somewhere that do equilibrium of mass and energy for the purpose of time conservation.

Why does it that there is time difference in the east and west side of earth?
Because gravitation dictates. Our earth has its own gravity different from other planets,so there are different planetary time dimensions governed by mass and energy propagated by sun.
Earth's mass as its gravity absorbs energy from space,the result is time. Time is the sequence of events in the continuum as you said because there is global time dimensions,this dimension lead us to reality.

As you may examine how i write,how my simple english matches your explanation.. Then this means that i did force myself how to exchange ideas with some one being knowledgeable than me.. But if you ever agree with explanation in here,meaning that intelligence is not the force... We may exert less force when dictated by heart.
           
 
EddyWords
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Good reply, it is most difficult to think outside the preconceived notion box.
I live on the Olympic peninsula in Washington State USA. If I were on the opposite side of the earth, relative to your location, from my concept of reality you would be upside down when I am right side up. Time is also a relative term. The time where you are at would be the same instant as where I am at but your time standard would be different. Time is a person conceived notion just like economics; it is not a force or an object.
While thought is not a physical force, it is still a cause in the sense that it can result in the manipulation of physical reality. Thought which generally refers to any mental or intellectual activity involving an individual's subjective consciousness. Thought only thinks but it is connected to physical reality through receptors and conductors. The same holds true with the construction of physical reality. DNA has a language that provides the intelligence to create physical form and function. Our influence on physical reality is no different than “natures” influence on physical reality based on the physics axiom, “things equal to the same thing are equal to each other”.
Gravity is more than “apples falling out of trees”, it is a force that provides the continuity and stability of physical reality. While gravity has important attributes; it is good to neither under estimate or overestimate its attributes. While gravity contains energy, it is not the agent that is the decider. The decider is a nonphysical cause that manages physical reality.
God is a religious concept, not to be confused with scientific concepts which deal with physical reality. Scientific method only applies to physical reality. The “heart” deals with both the physical and the conceptual reality. People depend on accurate perception and realistic concepts.
           
 
quantum
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When i say time,it is relative in itself,as earth move as a whole in its orbit,but when i say as its expression(t=me),it means dimension of difference from place to place.

Ofcourse time is not a force,because its a result from force by mass and energy quantizing effect,it also not even particle but measurement of event done by mass and energy.Therefore event results in time because of t=me.

By this,it follows that "thing are not equal to the same thing and are not equal to each other" like us,we are the same as human but have different belief,knowledge and imagination. Even earth's gravity is not equally exerting a downward pull from every direction.

The decider of gravity is its mass itself,so the decider is physical mass like earth.Even space has its contained physical mass, the invisible mass,as we observe blackhole.So black hole as space does energy absorption,if blackhole is so small,then galactic conservation of time will be short.

DNA don't poses language,rather poses intelligence to follow order,this intelligence is not part of physical reality,but spiritual reality..As you may agree that there has no the same finger prints in all of your fingers,much more twin are their most difference.
What it for, aside from knowing our own identity? if finger prints followed order much more our hearth and mind,so you can explain it but,any with no equation is not belong in physics.

Your equation of reality maybe is what people believe because itself is reality equation
Can you explain the reality of dream and imagination?
Example,imagine about love making,we could..But the reality is, making love is out of nothing at all.

You may not believe that i imagined universe as a large scale structure of an atom,i can prove it by nature of light,but you may disprove by your reality equation,but i'm sorry, yours may also be disprove.
           
 
quantum
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What is the matter in your t=me that governs your knowledge that took so long to reply?
This is not an insult question,i'm sorry but i just want to compare knowledge to intelligence
Einstein said that "imagination is important than knowledge"

For me knowledge is what our mental memory being feed in our t=me, so be thankful to those who can avail schooling, and sorry for me by being poor that can't. I just have finished high school,way back 1995

Intelligence is something by hearth and from nature,feed by being curious followed by the question of "why?"
We don't know why some are intelligent,since we can not even put it into equation,and if ever,what are those value?
Only when i read the bible
There says that God looks into the hearth and mind of man
While man is looking into the face
This is the reality

Is this included in your equation of reality?
The reality is, we can never measure God as we can not see nor read the heart and mind of man.

Therefore "intelligence is important than knowledge"
while "imagination is the product of knowledge that roots from heart"
           
 
EddyWords
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Sorry about the delay....
I seem to be in the fast lane with a lot of projects going on at the same time along with an extensive honey do list.
Your questions are important and i need to to provide adequate reply.
I think time equals matter and energy T=me should be time equals change and direction. T=C+D
Knowledge plus wisdom equals intelligence. K+W=I
Imagination plus intelligence equals comprehension.
Ix+Iy=C
Time plus action equals change. T+A=C
If you need an eduction, go to the library and check out and read text books that answer why as a bases for"knowing".
Learning should be a process from birth to death. It is essential that you learn the right things and avoid the bad things that will mess up your life.
The Bible is a good start. There is much to learn from the Bible. Social skills and practical skills are an important part of your ability to deal with reality and change it for the better. We are both physical and emotional beings and need to deal with reality accordingly.
Knowing God is a source of great understanding. He is the source of universal knowledge and wisdom.

           
 
quantum
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As you mentioned God as He is,then there is no doubt in the spiritual reality,we are brothers by talking about it.

I'm sorry about how i came along explaining my side about comparing such thing that governs hearth and mind.

About your equation as being compared in t=me,as i said in discussion about time travel. This equation is not mine,if it will be proven,then the reality is"we don't own time". We are like grass that grow by t=me.

Everything that occupy space is matter but occupied space is energy. Therefore in t=me equation "m" don't mean as matter but mass. Even outer space itself has mass (mass=energy),invisible mass,like air that felt but unseen.

If only we can travel outward universe until passing its very edge then look back,we may watch it as a big black hole,like a black ball. If there will be a giant star,then universe may be revolving around it, like earth to our sun.So your (T=C+D) and (T+A=C) equations will be verify.
But if there is no such giant star,universe is self t=me sufficient.

The two left equations (K+W=I) and (Ix + Iy) are some of your equations that i limit my mind.
If you don't put a limit in your mind,i may agree by putting also the value of those,since mathemathical equations.



           
 
adriponic
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Just a bit of loud thinking.....

time is a divisible quantity. Below the second there is the
tenth, the hundredth etc of a second. It seems to me that
as for matter it comes to a point where matter is no more
divisible, save for the account of sub atomic particles.

Therefore if time has a lower indivisible unit, then any motion inside that indivisible unit covers more that one place
at the same time. Would this be a correct understanding of
space? Would that mean that the universe filling that space is
timeless?

Any thought about that?
           
 
185185
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Part in the space where light energy never reaches is timeless,while reaches by light has t=me.
           
 
EddyWords
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185185 Lightning
I would like to reverse the process of thinking back to Absolute Zero.
At Absolute zero, reality would be a solid configuration of everything that exists in physical reality. There would be no motion and no change.
With the birth of energy as a source of change and the process of creative growth would create a dynamic system of physical reality as space became filled with matter that had relationship, continuity and a multiplicity of physical forms that evolved into complex mechanisms with design and purpose. At the lowest level of physical reality is chaos at the highest level of physical reality is us as rational and physically manipulative entities.
We can create chaos or meaningful life experiences because of the qualities of the mechanisms of physical reality.
There is universal intelligence and a creator of meaningful reality and we need to live our lives within the confines of reality as it is.
Time is no more than a method of understanding the progression of change in relationships and forms in an ever expanding space.
Dave
           
 
185185
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Words are seemed like enough convincing.
My words may not as this level of knowledge.

You said that reality would be a solid configuration of everything that exist in physical reality.

Universe is physical reality,isn't it? you may mean about big bang for a relationship to matter.

Rommel

           
 
EddyWords
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185185 Lightening....
When explaining conditions that do not normally exist; it is difficult to explain.
Absolute Zero is the temperature at which substances possess no thermal energy equal to minus 273.15 degrees Centigrade.
I am assuming that at this temperature nothing would move or change.
When applying this condition to all of physical reality; it would mean there is no movement or change.
The "Big Bang Theory" would be just the opposite condition when space takes on the energy necessary to create all of activity of physical reality.
It would be like being in an Amusement Park at night with everything in the park turned off.
Someone throws the switch and all the lights come on and the entire park becomes animated with sounds, motion and sights.
In the beginning everything is null and void. Energy creates all of the activity to provide the reality that exists today which continues on into future space and configuration. There is a universal source of intelligence that provides that energy the means to create rational, functional and meaningful physical reality.
You might want to get this translated into your native language.
Dave


           
 
185185
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Never mind to translate your words to my native language. I may run out of t=me. JUst renting a computer. Its about closing time.

If you mean for that substance is also a mass,matter or whatever,having absolute zero temperature,does it mean for the beginning of t=me? Just when that mass absorbed energy?

Is it never in you asking where the energy originated?
Or where that mass possessing absolute zero temp. come from?
Do you mean that all things are from accident?
           
 
EddyWords
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185185 Lightning....
Time is of an essence.

Fish got to swim.
Birds got to fly.
People got to wonder Why? Why? Why?
Vonnegut Jr.

We are all running out of t=me.
Closing time closes as we speak.

There are two kinds of substance. The first is physical substance and the second is substantive substance.

Physical substance must have energy, mass and presence.
Substantive substance must have form, function and attributes.

At absolute Zero there is no energy; therefore there is no physical substance only substantive substance that has potential but not activity or change. When energy is applied to substantive substance it becomes animated.

Without energy, there is no electricity to create lightning just as the human body has no life without energy.

Energy is an essential element of reality that provides the fuel to create reality in its physical and dynamic form.

The means for the exchange of goods and services is an essential element of social organization. Without the means to exchange goods and services, civilization is not possible.

Concepts are a prerequisite for all of reality.
All of the basic elements of reality preexist and always exist. Otherwise, there would be no reality.
There are both intentional results and unintentional results that create reality. There are also controlling factors of reality that give reality functionality and meaningfulness.
Dave


           
 
185185
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Closing time closes as we speak,but never in t=me that governs in every atom which composes a lip and tongue, closes, like having an end,as, if decays transform again to mass and energy. And be part of universal t=me.

Energy results from electricity as electricity results energy.

By means of polar fields(north and south pole) which is a by product of t=me, energy results by giving off least mass particles,in turn results electricity,heat, light and force.

Reality are all intentional result since all are part in conservation of life and t=me. Its like relationship without boundary,its nature.

Most important is the spiritual reality which cannot be seen but senses by hearth and verified by mind.

I believe why spiritual thing is invisible to man's eye is because,spirits defies law of nature and t=me. in other words not a part in t=me conservation.

like a man being old enough but feels the same. That's spirit.
           
 
EddyWords
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185185 Lightning....
The process of opening and closing happens at the same time throughout all of physical reality.
Energy is redirected; matter takes new forms, functions and intents. What was a caterpillar is now a butterfly. What was space is now matter and what was unknown is now known. The building blocks of the universe do reconstruction into new forms and functions.
Matter cannot be created or destroyed but it can take many forms and perform many functions. Lips become the carbon rings of another form of life.
The constants of reality are not physical; they are the laws, intelligentsia and essence of meaningful reality.
The hardware changes as the software remains the same.
The spiritual reality of being is not restricted by physical reality, physical reality is a by-product of spiritual reality.
The tree crashes to the ground and is only heard by those with ears to hear. Being part of physical reality is a special privilege to those who experience life.
As you say, spirit can be a part of physical reality or not; it can transcend physical reality to the reality of spirit or it can take on flesh and be both spirit and physical. The spirit in the flesh is then subjected to all of the attributes of physical reality.
What is gained in experience, is loss of freedom from pain and gain of responsibility.
Life's conversation should be all about how to make the most of the story of our life.
Spirit is always part of life. Staying strong in the spirit is a vital part of being physical at any age.
Dave


           
 
EddyWords
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185185 Lightning....
To find out more information on my philosophy Electrostentialism and functional dynamic systems; my four books "Earthland" are available on Amazon Kindle.
Dave
           
 
185185
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Nature tell us, a caterpillar will never be a horse but butterfly,since its final function and intent is for pollination.

Our physical being is matter, population today imply about matter,can be created or destroy.

Physical reality is not a by product of individual spiritual reality,as we never had consciousness before we became a fetus.

WE experienced life because of spirit within, like a computer is useless without a software.

Spirit is something that flesh never benefit.
Like when Jesus told His apostles, drink my blood and eat my flesh.
Also like if someone tell us to swallow some of our words, will never benefit our flesh, since words don't have nutrients but substance of faith.

Jesus the truth and life.
His father God, also the father of spirits.
God's being is holy spirit, who created everything.

This is conversation,most story of our life.
           
 
EddyWords
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185185 Lightning....
Right; a horse is "a horse of course" and "by any other name, a horse is still a horse".

Matter is what matters in physical reality but in spiritual reality, what matters is not matter; it is intelligence, comprehension, memory, communications, wisdom and choice.
This applies to nature as well as intelligent life.
Software is the application of forethought to mechanical systems through electrical communications.

Without Spirit, the flesh is no more than a piece of meat.
The symbolic drinking of wine and eating bread is an internalizing of the teachings of Christ to add meaning to our own life.
"We do not live by bread alone but by every word that proceeds from the mouth God".
I agree. Jesus is the truth and life.
God's being is Holy Spirit, who created everything.
This is conversation, most story of our life.

There is more to life than physical being; there is also the meaningfulness of communications and compassion.
"For God so loved the World that He gave his only begotten Son that Who-so-ever believes in Him shall have everlasting life".

Life is more than t=me; it is a dynamic system of physical reality that provides the dynamics of being able to experience life in all of its meaningful ways.

Time is the dynamic application of energy, matter and intelligence to space.

t=mei




           
 
185185
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Memory of those who died been forgotten in themselves,this imply about being nothing to recall by the person who died,as the spirit of that person belongs to the hand of God.
Only when those dead go back to life again by the the power of God,the only time for their memory back into reality.

Dead are like sleeping so tight without knowing about surroundings.
We sleep,then when awaken we can recall the past and go to work. Since our spirit is within our being. This hold true about being human,never have power to dictate our spirit to stay or leave our body.

Not every mass do posses spirit,but energy.
How they been was by the supernatural power of God,intelligence, wisdom, hands and word of God. But never His wisdom and intelligence been part of all t=me in every mass, since God's being as holy spirit never change and not transferable to any object.

By this, why some religious group imitate God into invented images? this imply about them being blind. If they know the truth but doing what is against God,then who they are?

Also by this, life is more than and older than t=me since God's being and His life is infinite.
           
 
EddyWords
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185185 Lightning
To add another dimension to the conversation....
It is my thought that Heaven and Earth is a binary system and that people's entities pass back and forth between the two planes of existence just as particles disappear and reappear. I have had experiences where I seem to have been gone and then reappeared but cannot remember the in- between.

Not everything contains spirit but everything physical is influenced by the infusion of intelligence to act in accordance with programmed cause and effect.

I agree that people try to create God in their own image and what is worse is that they try to influence the power of God to their own will and subjugate the will of other people. What they are is very foolish and a danger to other people.

Yes first is God, then space and then physical reality.
There is Physical Reality, Cognitive Reality and Systemic Reality.

Dave



           
 
185185
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Spirit is the boundary of science to prove the existence of.

The other dimension you mean is something that bible can explain. I don't memorize the verses it contains,but by listening to evangelist in church of God religion,i may feed the curiosity about your experience, as me too have experience when i was child but can't recall that thing so clear. But involves location somewhere about i've seen.

The bible says that spirits are being born to a person.
Making changes of that person's character from birth to old.
Like a person who loves money so much have that spirit of love about money, and so on as you may observe from others.

All things that God created were good,but some turns to evil by disobeying God.

Evil and good spirits have their own freewill given by God.
A good person is where the good spirits dwells. And bad spirits respect that person being their god and turn away.

A bad person is where also the bad spirit welcomes much. Making that person really as he/she is,bad. And the good spirit follows that person in hope for their acceptance,consequence in time for that person may come,and become good.

Spirits have their own sense of vision and memory.Those what in their memory may have flash back and or reflects to your senses of memory even creating image in your mind that reflects from that of spirit's memory who dwells in you. That spirit may have gone before from that place you've seen and as that spirit recall it reflects in your mind. so you may experience like you been from that place before.

By this you still have time recalling back what you've experience,then ask yourself about the kind of those spirit that in you, are dwelling. Are they good or bad?

Then think also about binary system you said and 2 planes of existence if true.
           
 
EddyWords
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185185 Lightning....

"Evil is like the hungry lion that searches out those whom it might devoir".

"All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God".

"Our righteousness is as filthy rags".

"We are all sinners who are saved by grace not by works that we not be prideful".

My thoughts on the subject are that we live in a world red in tooth and claw. It is a place of both good and evil; the source of which is all of people kind.

We need to have the courage to do what is right and good and the strength to defeat evil. Otherwise, life becomes hell on earth and the world becomes our enemy.

If God is with us, who can prevail against us?

To know yourself and be true to yourself is a critical aspect of all human self-examination.

Self-confidence is good while selfishness is evil.

No matter what the state of matter, the state of soul needs to be pure with its intent and its choice of action.


If God is with us, who can prevail against us?

To know yourself and be true to yourself is critical in all human self-examination.

Self-confidence is good while sefishness is evil.

No matter what the state of matter, the state of soul needs to be pure with its intent and its choice of action.
Dave

           
 
185185
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No rightious man who never commit sin in front of God, imply about Jesus' supernatural being as also a God like His Father.

Yes evil is like a hungry lion since even Jesus been tried by evil's temptation.

If evil did to Jesus much more for humans, they will. So be like Jesus,fighting them by fear of His Father.
Fear in God is the source of wisdom, for us to turn away from evil and sinful things.

How will a man be prideful if in Him fears God? We are nothing.
No human can ever make own step so straight and rightful if not because of God.

Nothings matter for what ever the state of matter , as matter been also by creation of God with works,function and purposes.

But man develop theories
Like big bang and evolution

Mankind's thinking are so limitless by ignoring bible.
Some may not ignore it but may not understand because words are locked,then made for them about doubt. Therefore made theories.

Even knowing the beginning of time for themselves saying,universe is from accident,a big bang.

Have they yet measure the age of universe? Lol!

A carpenter create a table leaving fingerprints in the surfaces of woods.
God created universe leaving no prints of past.

You may wonder how i say these thing but yet it relate in my post comments in time travel discussion forum.

           
 
EddyWords
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185185 Lightening....

While it is good to be aware of the magnitude of the universe and all of the principles that go into making reality the way it is; it is most important to deal with reality where we are at with the best possible information.

It is essential to maximize our ability to deal with reality and deal with the immediate problems as they present themselves.

Having a flat learning curve and ignoring bad results from past fatal errors is foolish and deadly.
The Bible is full of good information about bad mistakes.
Christ was very good at recognizing wrong headedness and deviant coping. He did not mince words He called things as they were.
Dave
           
 
185185
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Yes that was Christ

Christ is son of God, and so He is God

but i'm son of man,so i am,im not good in recognizing wrong headedness,as i can never see nor read the hearth and mind of every man. About this thing only God can do.
           
 
EddyWords
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Right 185185 Lightning....

People are expected to do what they can with what they have to work with.

Here are some basic concepts you need to be aware of.

There are four types of intelligence.
They are creative intelligence, cognitive intelligence, functional intelligence and destructive intelligence.

There is more to existence than physical reality.

There are four types of reality.
They are physical reality, cognitive reality, chaotic reality and ordered reality.

Scientists are limiting their own understanding of reality by ignoring these essential elements of reality.
           
 
185185
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But with no spiritual reality, exist nothing.

Its like asking what came first between chicken and egg?
If we base in bible,i believe chicken came first,because God created animals. An egg cannot be consider as yet an animal.

By this we know that spirit is older than created animals,even older than universe,because God the Father is Holy Spirit,who created everything.

Scientist limit their understanding of reality by seeing under the microscope.
Shall they put spiritual thing under the microscope?

I believe its intangible thing,not science will prove but hearth and mind.

Its like as you experience love,it occupy spaces of hearth and mind, even not a place but occupied by person you loved.
           
 
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Sorry to interrupt, but can someone make me understand-what actually 'life' is? Drawing an analogy, that a robot-an exquisite masterpiece of man's creation-uses complex electronic machinery-to move about, or to do calculations, we, the human beings-are also a creation of an unknown, but to-be-assumed entity-the God. Question: is 'God'-a single being, or a group of unclassified beings-who created us? See-robots need energy-not only robots- but all their ancestors needed energy. They used the energy that we provided them, and in turn-these 'ancestors',used some of that energy for their own, and released the left out energy, which is essential for our work. This is the reason, for which till date, we haven't got any ideal machine, a machine with (total work input= total work output) (work efficiency=1). We use energy-main source:food, and we use that energy to live on, and do our work. FLOWCHART: ENERGY INPUT (DRY CELL) : Machine (CONSUMES) : ENERGY OUTPUT (HEAT) /// ENERGY INPUT (FOOD) : living being (CONSUMES) : ENERGY OUTPUT (WALKING)


Please note: machines consume the work input, consume a part of it, and store it within them as potential energy, and, their useful work output is exhibited as kinetic energy. Likewise, we too store a part of the provided energy within us as potential energy, and do useful work , like walking, talking etc. Its this 'potential energy within us' ,that is exhibited in the form of 'life'.

This was my own apprehension about 'life', please share your own opinion in this regard…