Israeli-Palestinian conflict

Israeli-Palestinian conflict

 
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Israeli-Palestinian conflict discussion
 
StandForJustice
I believe the Jews have full rights to Eretz Israel, not the Palestinians. Who can prove me wrong ?
           
 
MCPCORP
replied to: StandForJustice
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IF THEY HAVE FULL RIGHTS THEM WHERE DO PALESTINIANS FIT.
THEY ARE AND WERE THERE FROM AGES AGO SO WERE JEWS
BECAUSE JEWS ARE STRONG DOES NOT THEY ARE THEY ARE ENTITLED LAND SOLEY.IT IS OBVIOUS JEWS ARE TREATING PALESTINIAN SECOND CLASS.NO ONE TRIBE CAN RULE ON OTHER. MAKE PEACE AND
STOP STEALING LAND FROM PALESTINIANS.ALL OF YOU ARE RELIGIOUS NUT INCLUDING AMERICA.
           
 
Explorer72
replied to: MCPCORP
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The land never belonged to the Palestinians in the first place. And it was given to them, not stolen. Anything else, dumbass?
           
 
ShirleyCurley
replied to: StandForJustice
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I agree with you--100%. To my none expert knowledge there is not a people group known as "Palestinians". Palestine is the name of the land and those who claim to be of that descent are not a pure race, or, i.e., they are not really descendants of said Palestine people groups. They may have been descended from the Philistines way back before Christ but there is nothing to prove even that that I am aware "of". Keep up the good work!!!
           
 
CarmenB1998
replied to: StandForJustice
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I believe that the land of Israel, or Palestine, if that's what people want to call it, I think that it is just SUCH a small piece of land, people should stop arguing about it, and it would be the best for the whole world if there was peace
           
 
CypVox
replied to: StandForJustice
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StandFor Justice: You said:

I believe the Jews have full rights to Eretz Israel, not the Palestinians. Who can prove me wrong ?

Is your challenge still open? If so I will prove to you that you are living an illusion and that the Palstinians have a far greater ethnic claim to Palestine than 95% of the Israeli's that have taken over the Palestinian territorities.
           
 
Puckish
replied to: StandForJustice
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I believe the "Amerindians" ahe full right to the USA - nobody else ; who can prove me wrong ?

Speaking of my own islands [UK] : i believe the Celts have full rights to the British Isles - who can prove me wrong ?
[ie the Romans, the Vikings, the Anglo Saxons need to go . . . Where ?]

Populations change - get used to it : "Palestinian" Arabs have lived on the farms, which they are now losing, for many generations. Where are they to go ?
           
 
Puckish
replied to: ShirleyCurley
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I believe that - since all Humans came "out of Africa" - we should ALL of us return to Africa, and leave the rest of the world which belongs to NONE of us , to the - Polar Bears, the Tigers, the wild horses , the kangaroos -

"can anyone prove me wrong " ? !
           
 
Puckish
replied to: CarmenB1998
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DO you not remember that Abraham was a newcomer to the hinterland of the Mediterranean ?
He came from Ur , and coveted [ oooo a SIN !] the lush land there, and set about terrorizing and , burning and plundering there - as you can read in the BIBLE .

Since he did so to others, cannot the wheel of history turn , and he be ousted ?
Empires rise and fall again.
           
 
RiWi93
replied to: Puckish
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The fact of the matter isn't who was there first or who's there now, it's who has the strongest bond with the land.
as much as working the land itself for a century or so is honorable, the entire majority of the "Palestinians" have no bond with the land of "Palestine", most or Syrian, some call themselves Arab and the rest are immigrants from Morocco (not from Palestine), Yemen (NOT from Palestine) and mostly Sudan (Not even Asia) who were brought to settle the under the control of the Turks (also, not from Palestine) at the same time the first groups of Jews began returning to Israel.
the only non-Jewish ethnic groups who are actually native to Israel and have an actual bond with the land are the Druze and the Bedouins, both of which are respected members of the Israeli society, who also serve in the IDf.

the question is not that of whether the land belongs to the Jews or not, because as you said, populations change, were here, we like shmear, get used to it.

The real question is how you get the "Palestinians" to understand that the jews have a right to the land that is as valid (if we come down from greater) as theirs is.
That is hard to do.
           
 
MichaelStansfield
replied to: RiWi93
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Jeremiah Chapter 3 - Israel is better than Judah and has chosen Israel to return over Judah. So if this is true how can Judah be Israel or Israel be Judah. Second Hosea said that Israel (not the Jews) would roam the nations because they have sinned. I'll have this debate and "if" you believe in the Bible than the "Bible" will prove you wrong. Quite easily I might add. ;) I hope you can provide at least a little challenge ;)
           
 
DenytheTruth
replied to: StandForJustice
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First of all if your going to make a blatant statement like that at least provide some evidence to support your theory.
Second of all your quite literally an idiot. The Palestinians or Arabs have been living in the region for thousands of unbroken years. Its your problem you were kicked out by the Romans, not the Palestinians. Dont go arguing that there is no such thing as a Palestinian because they dont exist and that they never owned the land. 5.5 million refugees created by the Zionist State of Israel is proof enough. That would be like Aboriginal Australians walking up to the Anglo Saxon majority and telling them to fuck of back to where they came from, regardless or not if they have lived in the area for hundreds of years.
In conclusion read up on your history (not books written about the false narrative of Israhell.)
           
 
DenytheTruth
replied to: RiWi93
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Going with your logic, the Anglo Saxon Australians, New Zealanders, South Africans, Zimbabwe and Americans have no right or as you like to put it "bond" with the land. Therefore they should be expelled. THE WORLD SIMPLY DOES NOT WORK LIKE THAT.In this day and age, the Palestinians have been there the longest, have an entitlement to the land, and yes have ownership to it.
           
 
DenytheTruth
replied to: Explorer72
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Well.....it was stolen.
Have you even heard of Nakba? Newly released British and Israeli documents from the period in question all amount to the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians and the forceful eviction of large arab communities from their homes. These homes were than handed over to new Jewish owners. IF THATS NOT STEALING WHAT IS?
Furthermore the same thing is happening today, in the West Bank (ILLEGAL SETTLEMENTS.)
           
 
Explorer72
replied to: DenytheTruth
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It was legal in terms of international law. Legal doesn't necessarily mean moral.