Radhasoami Ji,
I want to ask that is it right to discuss problems related to sant mat on this forum? I think every possible combination of problems with their solutions is contained in Sant Mat books. And the answers given by us here are sometimes right and sometimes wrong. And in the second case, it may confuse and misguide fellow satsangis and seekers.
What is babaji's hukum regarding this?

The views, expressed in this topic, are highly appreciated and need serious consideration/concerns for taking some immediate remedial steps, even at this belated stage, to curb further damage to spiritual purpose of this forum, which is eluding altogether by now and is causing more harm than any service.

It has rightly been viewed that sharing of views on this forum, in this manner is resulting in confusion instead of serving any fruitful purpose. In absence of evaluation of these views by some RSSB authorities/representatives, no conclusions could be drawn on any topic/issue and such disagreements, where ever so observed, cause some unexpected filthy atmosphere due to clash of ego or may be even due to healthy difference of opinion between any two intelectuals or what so ever.

What to talk of difference of opinion, people are sharing only dirty abuses or filthy views, without sharing anything relating to topic/question raised in this forum. Such a role is doing more harm than difference of opinion between any two intelectuals.

In case of personal problems, raised on this forum, these personal issues need not be taken cognizance of at all, being an unethical approach to interfere in one's sacred matters, which could be and needed to be resolved within the family members only. Else, it was not possible to share any views in any matter by listening to only one side of some such story. Anyone could interefere in such matters, only if authorised to do so by both sides.

In this regard here is a live example of a recent topic raised on 7th April 2013 by some kajee, relating to Tambaku, "Main nya hu pls batyan radha soami wale tambaku pina mna ku karte hai" this topic has been shared by nine perons through 100 posts till 21st April, 2013. On visiting this topic one can draw some logical inferences as if how many posts related to sharing of views linked with the topic and howmany posts contained only and only abuses/filthy language.

Details fo sharing of the said topic through 100 posts, by nine perons till 21st April, 2013 (in 14 days)are summarized as under:-
1. Palyal81: 37 posts
2. Jasvinder Singh: 20 posts
3. Kajee: 14 posts
4. Susingh: 8 posts
5. 0027; 6 posts
6. Starspeed: 6 posts
7. Palyal (claimed to be Fake) : 5 posts
8. Mohanlal (claimed to be Fake): 3 posts
9. Resonable: 1 post

Radhasoami Ji.

want to ask that is it right to discuss problems related to sant mat on this forum?
I don't think so dear.

think every possible combination of problems with their solutions is contained in Sant Mat books.
yes you are absolutely correct even in satsangs aslo if attented.

And the answers given by us here are sometimes right and sometimes wrong. And in the second case, it may confuse and misguide fellow satsangis and seekers.
I do agree.

What is babaji's hukum regarding this?
his hukum is, not to argue with any one, attempt only and only "MEDITATION & LEFT IT TO ME".

starspeed ji, you have given me a very valuable suggestion to think. tanx :)

even I was aware of these things ,but our argument starts when some body raises discussion without having any knowledge of RSSB.& some were I get little but hyper(our imotions).jisko pata hi nahi ki RSSB kya hei woh RSSB ko kyu bura ya galat bolte hei. ok ,I know what you are trying to say.


RadhaSoami JI.

Details fo sharing of the said topic through 100 posts, by nine perons till 21st April, 2013 (in 14 days)are summarized as under:-
1. Palyal81: 37 posts
2. Jasvinder Singh: 20 posts
3. Kajee: 14 posts
4. Susingh: 8 posts
5. 0027; 6 posts
6. Starspeed: 6 posts
7. Palyal (claimed to be Fake) : 5 posts
8. Mohanlal (claimed to be Fake): 3 posts
9. Resonable: 1 post


I have already replied to you in tambaku topic, the main reason for that. :)

radha soami ji.

But what about those who will raise the questions again ,after living from this form by us ???

payal 81 your reply to starspeed is exactly the words of our babaji maharaj.
starspeed,susingh,0027,payal81.you all are having the excellent knowledge about santmat,so my dear all dont waste your precious time here.
assi sare oss EK de ruha han.sannu kisi nu uchha niva nahi bolna chahida,nahi kisi nal bahas karni chahidi a ji.
now stop argumenting & give your time to meditation.

RADHASWAMI JI.

Bhai sahiban ji,jo hogaya so hogaya,hunn jando osnu.ethhe jine vi koi galt bolya hove mei hathh jod ke oss lai mafi mangda ha.

awal allah nuur upaya,kudrat ke sab bande.ek noor te sab jag upejeya kon bhale kon mande.

Starspeed ji sahiban,radhaswami ji, tusi sahi ta keha te oss utte amal vi karna chahida he, eh sab bahas chaddo te meditation vall dhyan deo ji. jado di shrishti bani hui a,uddo to santa mahatma nu galt e bolde aaye hann.je hunn bol lenge te,ki hojana? let them say.what ever the wants.chupp chap bhajan simran karo ji,ehi sadde baba ji da hukum a.

SHARMINDA NAA KARO JI! Yes! It is display of unconditional love, when some wrong done by others is being regretted.

May GOD also prevail to clean others dirty clothes so that they could also display outer progress in their behavior so as to think of making some inner progress also, since both are interlinked with each other.

No inner progress, in spirituality, is possible before developing and displaying outer progress by any devotee, through reflection of unconditional love all around.

Bilkul Sahi. Radhasoami Ji.

Dear, real satisfaction comes only from inside. Our mind is a well. If it recieves one answer, it will raise two more quesions. Babaji will take care of all true seekers. We don't have to worry much. We just have to do what is told to us during initiation. I have read in sant mat that some persons will not agree with us in any condition. It is because of their preordained destiny. Their time will also come but maybe just not now.
Look at our posts. We have made every attempt to answer their questions. But at the end what happened. Our answers were ignored by some of this/these person(s) and he/they changed topic to something else. When we moved to that topic, then he changed to some other topic.

I have noticed that some one/two persons have made multiple accounts. They themselves make pointless questions, and answer themselves too, to make it look like there are different persons posting which just isn't the case. This person's english writing style is same in multiple accounts. Notice the words like "more so", "above box/above post", "Yes!", "On Visiting this topic", "misgivings", Frequent Exclamation marks, Using Hindi shayari, Some words in Capital letters, etc. and he rarely uses I and You. He will raise many of these pointless Topics and posts in near future and may even post fake videos, fake interviews of satsangis, news etc. to spread false rumours and create rift. But we don't have to lose our faith, and must continue our journey with unshakeable faith, love and devotion.

I can reply to dear kajee and others and prove his facts wrong again on multiple facts by posting about 10 to 15 links against Sant Rampal Ji. But if i do so then that will worsen the condition more and leaves no difference between him and us. You have noticed that even after posting facts by us, he is still asking questions. If he still don't accept this, it is his own pre-ordained destiny. Even if i post a whole book, he will still ask questions.

Persons like dear kajee and others may provoke us to make ourselves uncomfortable and retialate. They may be even using Sant Rampal Ji just a tool to presents facts against us. But we must be calm and must don't reply to them at all and accept our defeat. That's our victory. Babaji will not be happy if we fight for him, but he will be more happy if we don't fight at all and live according to his will/hukum. When his right time come, he shall realize the truth sooner or later.

With this i am concluding my post and it may be my last post on this forum. I would like to apoligize to kajee,susingh and other members if any, to whom i offended them by any means either directly or indirectly. Godspeed to all of you for rest of your journey.

Just listen to this instrumental and chill out all: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BJ9AJ7iwIg

~Goodbye~

After doing maximum possible harm, if one decides to say good bye to this forum under some false pretexts, it is wished that one sticks to such decision at least.

Even while leaving this forum, one is not restraining from showing colors and still claims to be self proclaimed victorious.

Can it be claimed to be unconditional love and devotion, by such uttering,
“I have noticed that someone/two persons have made multiple accounts. They themselves make pointless questions, and answer themselves too, to make it look like there are different persons posting which just isn't the case. This person's english writing style is same in multiple accounts. Notice the words like "more so", "above box/above post", "Yes!", "On Visiting this topic", "misgivings", Frequent Exclamation marks, Using Hindi shayari, Some words in Capital letters, etc. and he rarely uses I and You. He will raise many of these pointless Topics and posts in near future and may even post fake videos, fake interviews of satsangis, news etc. to spread false rumours and create rift. But we don't have to lose our faith, and must continue our journey with unshakeable faith, love and devotion."

How can anyone claim about posting of fake videos, or news appearing in news papers? It is just ridiculous and display of crossing all limits of decencies, while saying good bye to the forum. Isn't it also strange that non-use of 'I' and 'You' has been, even, objected? Whereas, maximum harm has been caused ny use of these two pronouns in several posts and was against well known good ethics?

Isn't it strange to pass judgments about multiple accounts on the basis of guess based on use of words in some posts?
If so, then how could one dipute the judgments passed by some rampal by reading contents of RSSB books? Doesn't it reflect duality of thoughts/values and nothing else?

Someone rightly said that judicious judgments could not be expected, if some one knew that such judgment was to be passed over the doings of some relatives or in this case, if such judgment was to be passed by a STSANGI in favor of another known SATSANGI.

Regardng wishes for journey, it matters for those who think of SACHKHAND and not for those who love GOD's creation without any if and buts and hence want to continue this journey to-and-fro by loving HIS creation and bear all pains and enjoy fruits as per KARMAS account by seeking full stength from GOD to bear it.

Anyhow, good bye and congrats for victory! May GOD shower all HIS blessings for best of health, prosperity and wisdom above all!

Radhaswami ji.
Dear starspeed ji you are correct.some few days I was also feeling the same thing,when I talked these issues with father,he told me''kate behas karni oh vi net te ? Tu inna satsang sunda a,kitaba parda a.osch ehi likhya a na ki santmat bahas nal khatam kitti hi nai ja sakdi''

I can give the answer of susingh post,but I will not.they are just time passing here.now kajee will say ''santmat ko time pass bana diyaaa''

Ok brother. Hame ab faltu ki baten chodni hogi.

Radhaswami ji.

Same to you dear.

Santmat can't be discussed on net.arfter comming to this site,I was thinking all rssb followers will ask only spiritual qstns. But our qstns starts diverting to different ways. And what it has taken the shape we all knows.

All the best.........!!!!!!!!!

Sir It's not payal it's P A L Y A L.

tUSI SAHI KEHA SIR

Radhaswami ji.

Yes! Even while having decided to stop discussing the matter on internet, it is being claimed that answer to susingh post or 0027 or kajee could be given. But none of SATSANGIS, ever attempted to answer any of posts of one GURSIKH Jasvindersingh, who has been using this forum in their support by showering nothing but abuses and lot of filthy language instead of sharing views on any topic.

Where were they, while passing lot of judgments on others who were sharing their perception/views but did not match with them. Does it mean that only abuses and filthy language of a GURSIKH matched with their views?

Bingooooooo this is what I called twisting of topics,notesing others minor views

But I didn't said like this ''this is my last msg ''



instead of sharing views on any topic. Where were they, while passing lot of judgments on others who were
sharing their perception/views but did not match with them. Does it mean
that only abuses and filthy language of a GURSIKH matched with their
views?
ask him who has written.

ok brother's. Bye and take care......
Carry on your work.


Nice to have a time with you all.
Radhaswami to all

If some post is to be rewarded for the year, the above post should be selected for the highest reward for this spiritual forum for crossing all the limits of decency through use of filthy words to reflect one's, even CALLING NAMES, and digging up grave by commenting on persons who left shows capability shared in this topic, by a person who had diverted the topic and himself never contributed anything except asking uncalled questions unrelated.
OH VOW ! What a valuable contributions by this Gentleman !
Keep it up now in any dictating manner by showing true colors, as if one is accepted to be owner of this forum and can mislead anyone to any extent.

Above post is a fake ID and views have been copied from some earlier existing post. This fake ID is being used w.e.f.20th April, 2013.

It has been brought out in above box as if multiple IDS are being used by one person only while sharing views on this Forum.

1. How is it possible to use two or four IDS by one person?

2. Why is it being done and what is the motive or benefit for doing it?

3. How to know as if this is really happening, more so when views expressed by any, get shared with everyone and any one and do not and cannot remain any secret?
The entire information given in the above box does not require any comments since quite incorrect and misleading. One should not derive such baseless inferences without any basis and habit of alleging others need to be checked by restricting oneself to the topic raised in this forum.
Yes sir! 2=2 does make 7! One does win such an EGOISTIC CLAIM!

Above post is a fake ID and views have been copied from some earlier existing post. This fake ID is being used w.e.f.20th April, 2013. This is second attempt for using this fake ID in this topic that too by sharing views not relevent with the topic at all.

It is a question of one's conscious killing as also lack of ethics and nothing else.