Radha Soami Satsang Beas
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mohanlal
Does Radha Soami Satsang believe in MURTI POOJA? If not, why pictures of MASTERS/GURUS are sold in every SATSANG center as also are released on internet while assessing/listening BANI, which instead does not indicate picture(s) of the singer(s) of BANI? As far as I know and have learned during my several visits to BEAS, that BABAJI has been condemning MURTI PUJA in very clear words.As otherwise also in every kind of media, TV or DVD, picture of speaker, actor or writer etc. is displayed and not of anyone else as is done while relaying/releasing BANI on internet or through DVD, by displaying pictures of GURUS/Masters instead of displaying picture either of the singer or that of writer, who are related to such BANI available on YOUTUBE or that on internet.\or recorded in DVD etc.
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sureh
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You r right. Radhaswamis does not believe in Murtipooja. The reason for not doing so, may be known to u. The pics are sold at centres with the instructions that we should not start worshiping the pics of gurus. We should have pics in our house like as those of our grandfathers etc. Once a satsangi asked as to what should be done with their pics once they want to remove them. They said that they can be torn out or buried or destroyed in whatever way they want. It means that they wanted us to keep in our mind that pics are pics only. They serve the purpose of giving a glimps of the guru. You must have never seen any satsangi worshiping him. I suggest u to go through the books and listen satsangs carefully so that u have clear perceptions of Radhaswamis teachings.
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NANDINI06
Replied to:  You r right. Radhaswamis does not believe in Murtipooja....
Yes sureh is right. Radha swami g
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udipt123
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There are some parties who have studios outside the dera beas or somewhere away who compose or copy the beas BANI without the permission of dera beas and sales CDs/DVDs on the railway station b'coz railways station is that point where they could earn a huge money. if you would have been to dera beas than would know the other side of the station seems like a fair. and these people post the such BANI'S AND SHABAD on the internet with the background album images and other images of beas masters.
And the CDs/DVDs available in the dera beas compund are in only audio form, not in any of the backgroud images except the video satsang's of former master.
and about the photos of babaji sold that is cleared to you by one of my brother.
if you are not believing than you could enquire about it to dera publication department that these things sold outside the dera compound with or without the permission of dera
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mohanlal
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My question is based on my observations, noticing, followers bowing their head in front of RADHA SOAMI GURU(s) and asking their kids to do so, as also about sale of pictures in the SATSANG centres without any instructions, which I found was quite in defiance to the contents of SATSANG(s) attended by me at BEAS when BABAJI condemned it with clear directions not to act in such silly manner,as has rigtly been opined by you to the extent of maintaining all such respect/regards for GURU(s) in our mind only. Incase these pictures are sold outside in the store, it is a quite different position.
Further regarding pictures of /Master(s)/GURU(S)diaplayed while listening BANI, such pictures are displayed on even internet/Youtube instead of diaplaying pictures of either singer or that of writer as per laid down principles, which cannot be done without permission of RADHA SOAMI SATSANG, BEAS, else it could be objected to by sending a protest to them.
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udipt123
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Friend i give you the example of a class where a teacher teaches around 40-60 student. so does all student in a class maintain first class, no my friend there are some student who gain very good marks, some students brings average marks, some students pass with only second division marks and other the student who gets fail.
the same example is imposed to the radhasoami followers. where some follower just come to make picnic over there, some follower as per there mentality finds peace in listening regular satsang of babaji instead of doing meditation at home, where some people comes for entertaining only, and there are really few countable followers who are really a radhasoami follower.
as you told that you have been several times to dera than every things should be clear to you. if every follower would be a real radhasoami than babaji would not have need to do satsangs. friend why we clean our home daily b'coz daily some dust attacks to our home daily, in the same way the follower of radhasoami are of very sensitive as they move out the satsangs hall the evils things starts attacking to them and the followers are so weak that they forget every thing what they have listen.
if you have listened a babaji satsang than you would know that babaji says that taking naamdhan is just like taking an admission in the school/or college. just by taking an admission certificate would not be in our hand. we have to attend daily a class, we need to do some homework, some self study, learning than only friend we will be able to write in exam well. and some days we will be a successful person. so in the same way listening babaji's satsang is really not enough until unless we implements the things what babaji says.

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mohanlal
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Thanks for sparing your time but skipping the main point in absence of any logic and example cited does not fit in the issue raised therein anywhere!
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starspeed
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I don't know why you think it's an issue.
Regarding photos available in beas, they are availed not for worship. I believe that they are kept at home to get a reminder to follow our vows that were given at the time of initiation.
Regarding banis/shabads posted on the internet/Youtube they are not uploaded by RSSB. Our guru has given the strict instructions to not upload these videos on internet. Moreover not having the pics/videos of artists is at the discretion of artists and RSSB. They believe in selfless service. Also i believe that you must not focus on who is singing shabad/bani; you must focus on what is being sing.

In one of your posts you have seen bowing of some of satsangis before babaji. This is just a way to express respect just like we do to any master.
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mohanlal
Replied to:  I don't know why you think it's an issue. Regarding photos...
The issue is related to repeated contents of SATSANGS of BABAJI at Beas as also in Chhattarpura (DELHI) regarding His pictures, which are found being observed by followers ignoring his directions, more so because He should and does live inside us. Anyhow I agree with your views in this regards otherwise.
Regarding strict instructions reported to have been given by our GURU for not uploading such videos on internet, if such instructions are made available, the matter could be taken up with YOUTUBE and others by me affectively in order to curb such practice being in defiance to our GURU.
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starspeed
Replied to:  The issue is related to repeated contents of SATSANGS of BABAJI...
I still don't think that's so much of an issue. Why do you care? Humans make mistakes because they are not perfect. Internet and media are tools that can be used for good or bad. Everyone has its rights and freedom to express his feelings where good or bad against anyone.
As far as i know our babaji, he cares only for our dedication and devotion to our meditation and teachings.

If you are still not satisfied, then you can write a letter to babaji or contact you nearest Satsang dera for clarification.
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udipt123
Replied to:  The issue is related to repeated contents of SATSANGS of BABAJI...
You can take appointment with babaji regarding with your queries. definitly you will get the solution of your questions
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mohanlal
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Please provide me e-mail ID of BABAJI or his secretary or his authorised representative so as to enable me to seek BABAJI's appointment before planning a visit from USA.
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udipt123
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You can take dera helpline line number 01853-272345/272346/272341
whoever pick up the phone tell them to transfer the call in sewa samiti they will assist you how to take an appointment with babaji and how your letter would be answerable if you post the letter
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rajatkwatra
Replied to:  You r right. Radhaswamis does not believe in Murtipooja....
If the case is that photographs should not be worshipped then why the instruction is not written on the photograph itself.
Not able to understand when we have so much clarity in other issues, then why clarity is not provided on the face of photo itself.
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