Dhan Nirankarji
It is said in Avtarbani "Duhje nu jo kare nasaihat aap oh karda kam nahi., aap khudhi to bach nahi sakda., chad de kheda jam nahi."
Let me ask you question: kya aap gyan lene ke baad bhi andhkar mai to nahi?
Kya ap ne ye artical likh ne se pehele ye socha ke ap kitne badi mistake kar rahe ho?
Das ke yehi advice hai ap ko ke.. Babaji ne ye hak hume nahi diya ke hum kisi ke avgun dekhe..
Das ap se ye request karta hai ke please ye artical delete kar dijiye..
If you have any query than please reply me back..
Dhan Nirankar ji

The founders,organisers and official position holders of any mission,assosiation,religion SHOULD BE ROLE MODEL FOR REST OF THE SANGAT,THEY SHOULD BE REAL FOLLOWERS OF THE MISSION AND LEADING A GOOD MORAL LIFE BECAUSE THEY ARE ONLY A FEW AMONG HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OTHER SANGAT.SANGAT TAKES INFLUENCE FROM THEIR SENIORS,IF THEY ARE BAD EXAMPLE,THEY SHOULD BE FIRED FROM THEIR ACTIVE POSITION,I AGREE WITH AUTHOR OF QUESTION,HE RAISED A VALID ISSUE.DHAN NIRANKAR JI.

Dhan Nirankar Ji,

With referrence to your observation regarding General Secretary of the Mission in USA, I would like to clarify here that you are right at your place. No matter every human being can think the way like you. But I think it is very normal.

Not only in USA, but also in india, the personel sitting at high post of Nirankari Mission have understood the mission is their property not a chance of service provided by Baba Hardev Singh Ji. Today u can not see a single city with this very dangerous disease.

In our Pune is situation not better than that. In US case, it is just the story of inside the house but in my city stages have been captured by the community of the Incharge. Not only this much, the tour programme of Sant Sharan Noor Ji ( brother and family member of Baba Ji) was declared as unofficial. Not only this much, when das accompanied Baba Noor Ji for his lonawala Wala visit, was banned to speak/sing in Sangat. Not only this much, Nirankari Mission in Pune has become a Pimpari Mission or Sindhi Mission for thier own fame.

So, it is my humble request, if you really respect and have a faith upon Babaji, just ignore these things, otherwise you desprive the interest of attending Sangats like me.

Praying for your good religious faith,

Chamkaur

All i can say is,no one will gain anything by writing such stuff,instead of pointing out at others just try to listen to what babaji is trying to teach us....that is love and only love....nirankar will take care of everything,we are nobody to judge.
and as far as role model is concerned, MAKE BABAJI YOUR ROLE MODEL and all your worries will end.

Dhan Nirankar ji, of course BABA JI should be role model for every body but to keep the mission critism free this should be monitored very carefully by SENIOR S whether local oragnisers MAHAPURSH are WORTHY of their positions or not?Sangat has very soft heart when they hear wrong doings by their spiritual leaders,sangat feels disoriented and demoralised and at the same time NON MISSION PEOPLE (OPPONENTS) find oppurtunity disgrace the MISSION.
HE WHO DOES NOT DO GOOD JOB AS A POSITION HOLDER SHOULD BE FIRED IMMEDIATELY WITHOUT WARNING,ONLY PURE SOUL SHOULD COME FORWARD AND LEAD THE MISSION.

Lets leave these things to babaji completely..it is a mission of love and not some kind of office or mnc where boss fires his employees....i respect your concern but we are no one to judge.....nirankar will do the justice..all we can do is spread the message of mission so that more and more people become aware...whatever happened was not at all good but writing this here makes no sense.you urself are giving people chance to point out on the mission.concentrate on what babaji has to say and leave everything to him.this is purely a legal matter,do not advertise such stuff....
dont be demanding and have faith in babaji.
if still you have some hard feeling then its better to talk about it with some mahapurush who can forward your message to babaji....
my humble request is to delete this forum completely and discuss about the mission,share information so that people searching about the mission gets some true and valueable information

rest is your personal choice..
dhan nirankar ji

Dhan Nirankar ji,

Dear Savnit Singh Ji, I read lot of view on one page but particulariy about whats yu have expressed your views. To whom you are going to address it.

Please clarify.

Thanking you

Chamkaur

Dnkji at ur holy feet. It is high time we understand what Rev. Samta ji has just said and has advised for. These kind of messages do not do any good to Babaji's mission of propogating peace and oneness through God's knowledge. If any one has done something wrong out of any reason, Involve a respecatble local saint and talk it out POLITELY to him personally. If he understands you, fine, if he does not, leave it on almighty Nirankar.
Who has given us the authority to judge others?
We ourselves make numerous mistakes everyday. Better we ask for fogiveness for us and blessings for all.
I Humbly urge you to delete these kind of messages and post something that is constructive that makes our faith in His Holiness more stronger.
The world is full of gossip mongers, we are saints and our words and deeds need to prove that. we are the chosen ones.
Dnkji once again....and my due apologies incase you do not share your thoughts likewise.

Dear samta ji dhan nirankar ji, my self is rohit shukla from ahemdabad, and by the grace of babaji our family have spend eight years in prachar ,even now also by the grace of babaji our whole week are busy in schedules of prachar so thatwe can spread this divine knowledge ,but recently when i came to know about all these things ,NO doubt we have many proofs and evidence of this things going on in mission but let me tell you one thing we are here to spread the true knowlege Of babaji, babaji in his vichar once told that in this new era we requier the strength of youngsters but what the youngesters are exactly doing ,they can do prachar by taking the experience of our seniear mahapurush who have spend thier whole life in seva of mission and babaji,even the saints who have devoted their life for mission , we are celebrating mukti parv divas . so no doubt one should concentrate on his deeds ,on the message of love spread by babaji ,so according to me the simple way to do bhakti is just belive in babaji and keep your faith on babaji and give up yourself to him, because somebody have wrote-(ki insaan ki fitrat bhi andaaz se pare hai,ki barbakht khuda ko bhi banda samjata hai)- so what every one is thinking that nirankar doesn't know anything ,he knows every thing but the thing is that we dont know, that he is knowing everything ,so just concentrate on prachar and the way through which you can spread the true lightning message of babaji, because we can give our suggestions ,we can express our feelings but the final commitment will be of nirankar so ,don't spoil your time in any matter that takes you away from nirankar,and don't led the blood of saints go waste for mukti parv divas ,just know one thing-(kabhi hum aahein bharte hain ,to kabhi hum fariyad karte hain, par musibat jab samne aakar khadi hoo,tab hum is khuda ko yaad karte hain,.

may nirankar give happiness and his believe and faith to you.

-SHUKLA ROHIT (AHEMDABAD-24/2/2010)

Dhan Nirankar Ji

Let me tell you one thing you might be knowing that in BHAGWAT GITA it was said by lord krishna that "every person will get the things as per his work " so what ever you came to known about the that person you should understand that he will get reply of that karma from nirankar but we are human being and we donot have any authority to panish somebody.we all are doing the simran " ek thu hi nirankar me teri sarana manu baksa lo" it means we all are sorry for our karma in front of nirankar .

in words of his holiness satguru baba hardev singh ji maharaj " just ask nirankar to bless those people"since every person have right to correct himself.

So try to look your self,your karma & try to walk on babaji words .

From
LAVKUSH SHUKLA
AHMEDABAD
INDIA

Will anyone tell me who will be the next satguru as the present baba has no son.abhi tak to aisa hee hota ayaa hai ki beta hi baap ki gaddi sambhalta hai , lakin ab kya hoga ,i am very curious.pls reply.

Dear pinki ji dhan nirankar ji , here is sonu from ahemdabad gujarat by reading your funniest question i was very much worrried that its not the time to worry about the gurugaddi its the time pray for the long life of nirankari baba hardev singh ji maharaj;may nirankar bless for yor long life.

i prey ti nirankar for your long life and knowledge to spread it all over the world.

dhan nirankar ji.

raghuvanshi sonu (27/2/2010-ahemdabad)

Hello
i guess u have some confusion here.baba avtar singh ji(2nd nirankari guru) was not the son of baba buta singh ji(1st guru of our mission)....so its not the way u thinking..being satguru is not a position where 1 can enjoy ,its of great responsibility.life of satguru is beyond our thinking..it requires lot of sacrifice..and as per ur question i can only say that no other person knows the answer except babaji himself.....when the right time will come,ur question will surely get answered....for the time being,nirankari satguru is baba hardev singh ji maharaj.....
wasting out time thinking about such questions wont help....lets concentrate on today and live as per the teachings of our satguru,rest leave everything on nirankar.
samta narang

Dear sonu ji and samta ji one thing is that every time when avtaar come on the earth he comes to teach us and then leave at a time.but i wonder in this kalyug time numberless baba`s have arrived on earth and they boast as the present avtaar you know . i have met with the believers of various gurus and they all think that they are on the right way.
their eyes opens when thier baba`s are found in various scandals or when they are raided with huge bank balances.
In my opinion every human being if ask from his/her within
the answer will come that he/she has no need to wander all around and concentrate on god residing in them.that is all .
because we dont know who is right or who is not.
this is like some people bielieve in astro while others belief is that pandits makes you fool for making money.you will not leave your path nor i will untill our inner concious evokes or when we will die and meet the real god.
pls tell me yours gtalk account so that we can communicate well.
with thanks,
pinki

Quite pessimistic approach u have..anywaz i understand ur concern....for this i can only say if u r so much interested in knowing god...then u must read holy books...and after that u can ask any1 who can show u d real concept of holy book u read without any pre-condition..the satguru ,the main messanger of god will make u understand and show u the pure form of god after which u will feel that there is no difference b/w geeta and quran or b/w bible and any xyz holy book.rituals can be different but the main concept ie. what god is?where is god?will be same..true guru is the 1 who takes u out of all the superstitions of the world....the guru who will accept u the way u r ,with ur true self,with all ur habbits-eating,dressing,ur true nature everything will be the true satguru....GURU'S can be many but SATGURU is only 1....u got to find the SATGURU out of various GURUS....rest depends on god.

in geeta bhagwan krishna showed his avtaar to arjuna in a battle field.that means there was no meditation required,astavakra showed god to raja janak in a sec..there are n no. of scriptures u can look upon....veda says god has 5 charectoristics- SUKSHAM,VISHAL,SARVAVYAPI,EK and NIR-AAKAR....
GURU GRANTH SAHIB SAYS- ISKO AAGNI JALA NI SAKTI,SHASTRA KAAT NI SAKTA,PANI BHIGO NI SAKTA.....
QURAN SAYS- GOD IS IN FRONT OF U BUT U NEED AN ENLIGHTED PERSON TO GIVE U TRUE EYES TO C GOD.
that guru who shows u god in a minute and all the points mentioned in different holy books fulfil the knowledge of the god shown to u then only surrender urself in his feet as he will be the SDATGURU of kalyugh....

all i wish to say in the end that god has sent his messangers in all yugas then y wont he send it in kalyug?
put some efforts and u shall find the light....
i apologise if my words did not do justice to ur question.
but i tried my level best to explain.
dhan nirankar ji
samta n

Dear samta ji ,dhan nirankar ji, let me tell you one thing about the spirituality of god, in ramcharitmanas it has been told that sohe jani jehu deah janai,only those persons can realize the omni presence of god to whom the true master itself desires to know .after that it has been written that ja per krupa ram ki hoi ta par krupa kare sab koi.means if the true master,nirankar get impressed with you than then surely every one will love you so ,its the time to understand that how a gurusikh can impress his god and take the pardon for our wrong deeds which we have done knowingly or unknowingly. so let us pray to god for a true enlightenment of knowledge in our life.

dhan nirankar ji.

shukla rohit(ahemdabad-3/3/2010)

can i know your residential address so that i can discuss with you as i am too impressed with your belief.

yes you are absolutely wright.
i thanks you so much for such a courage to speak before all odds.

THANK YOU

NIRANKAR JO KANN KANN ME HO JARE JARE ME HO JO SARI SHURUSTI KO CHALATA HO WOH JO PARAM SATA HAI,
JO PURE WORLD KO CHALA RAHE HAI WO PARAM SATA KI AAJ HAME PARMATMA KI KURPA SE PEHCHAN HUI, HAI DAS AAJ DHAN HAI KI AAJ KALYUG MAY BHI PEOPLE AAJ EK DUSRE KO NEKI KI BHAVNA BATATE HAI,
YEH KALYUG MAY AVTARI BABA HARDEV SINGH JI MAHARAJ HI KI KURPA HAI ,

DHAN NIRANKAR JI ALL NIRANKARI SANT

Dhan nirankar pinki ji; i have studied your thoughts and worries about knowing the truth regarding the satguru because your heart is thinking that babaji is really a true master but your mind is saying that no it may be a somethink else ,because daily the news regarding the scandala of many gurus are coming in the news, but let me tell you one thing saying that like others that just concentrate on your bhakti is not the true answer of your question but to know the truth is your real destination one can never understand the light without knowing the darkness,for example one can not know the importance of water untill and unless he is very thursty, for example ,its all depends upon the vishwas and confidense towars yourt true master instanse while looking on to the news of scandels you should be proud of your true master that a vast difference is there between the other pandits and gurus,and a vast difference between a guru and a satguru,first a fall you should know that exactly to whom the word satguru stands for,the master who possess the capability of showing a true light, a master who is different than others in his true deeds ,a master who says that words only which is there in his karma.a true master , atrue power of truth who is beyond the world ,existing in each and every point and place of nature ,a satguru who is capable of changing the impossible to possible and who can change the possible to impossible ,a master who when speaks its seems like a father , agod who is explaning to his child ,a satguru who is the peak of perfection doing every thing but then also conveying himself as our daas. that's called a satguru known as nirankari baba hardev singh ji maharaj.i think now your are very clear about who is satguru,saints use to say"that been vishwas hoye na parteeti,and been partit hoy nahi preeti" so every thing depends upon your vishwas and shradha towards babaji,mind well don't talk about other gurus and please don't compare our satguru with them and mind well that your are talking about the largest and supreme master of these world called teeno loko da mallik.so i prey to god for your long, happy and prosperous bhakti life.

dhan nirankar ji.

Dnkji,
Dear Pinki Ji,
your worries and concerns are legitimate.
when have u seen a market with only Daimonds and no fake jewellery?
Where there is diamond there will be fake jewellery too. It is upon us, as buyers, to go to trustworthy source and buy real product.
As Rohit ji has rightfully said we do not need to make comparisons between the two. Who else besides Satguru Baba ji in this world can enlighten you with Bramha gyan? Only the human form of Nirankar (Satguru) has the power to make u realize the super power Nirankar (or the formless- all Powerful God, being addressed with all different names)

Holy Guru Bani clearly says "Bhai re Guru Bin Gyan Na Hoye, Poocho Bramhe Narde Ved Vyase Koye"
There is no other way to get the salvation without true God's Knowledge and there is no one Besides Satguru who can bless one with God's knowledge.

This Mission was not propgated by TV ads and great orated sermons on media. It has a history of saints who have dedicated their lives in propogating God's Knowledge "Bramha Gyan" among the masses. HH Satguru Baba Gurubachan Singh Ji, along with many others saints, laid down his life to clear the darkness of vices prevailing in this world.

So again, as Holy Gurbani Says "Poore Gur Ka Sun Updesh, Par Bramha Nikat Kar pekh" and how to find the Poora Guru, it further explains "Poore Gur ki Eho Nishani, Par Bramha Nikat Kar Jani"
We the Millions of Followers are the standing proof that we have realized the Omni Present and Omni Potent All Mighty God though HH Satguru Baba Hardev Singh Ji Maharaj, and thus He is the True master, or the Satguru of the day.

Wanna try yourself?

Wanna try yourself???? Welcome Aboard!!!!

Dhan Nirankar Ji. I just want to recite a simple punjabi idiom " Saadh naal ki te chor naal ki, beh k apni nbed tainu hor naal ki." Moreover in Sampuran Avtarbani it is written that,"kahe AVTAR eh tere hath vich bazi apni jitt ya haar."sorry if i am hurting anyone.DNG

Mhapursho dass to yhi bolna chega ki sari umar bas yhi khata karta rha dhool thi chere par me aayina saaf karta rha said by galib to ab hm kiso bura khe jo krega nirnkar krega , isko sab pata he ham he befkoof hote jo samjnhi pate ye malik he

Dhan Nirankarji,
every coin has two sides.we are living in the world where duality is the integral part.The incident which you mentioned above only reflects this.we have to remember that not even a small leaf can move without god's permission.He is the creator.we do not understand with our intellect and have no insights of right and wrong and try to interprete .God always balances and is the source of everything.As our dear babaji said that we have to bring change in ourselves and rest will follow.The above incident is just mirrors what needs to be corrected with in us.And most importantly ,little dirt here and there does not make ocean impure.Ocean is after all ocean.