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Definition of Trinity
 
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kirtil
12/11/09
Trinity has its own meaning in terms of religion and philosophy. What impressed me is the definition I found on
http://www.youtube.com/user/ereflect#p/u/0/OncIVg50o4I

I am sharing this so that it may help you all also.
Let me know what you feel.
           
 
SamuelStuartMaynes
10/03/11
replied to: kirtil
Kirtil,

If I have found the website to which you are referring, it defines the orthodox Holy Trinity as Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. It then goes on to say, "As a general term, Trinity merely refers to three things or people that are considered as a unit, inseparable."

I feel this may be the most acceptable short definition of Trinity I have ever seen.

Can you help me correct and improve the arguments about the Trinity in my new book "The Trinity Absolute: a Constructive Interpretation of World Religions and a Metaphysical Blueprint for Peace" currently previewing on the web at www.trinityabsolute.com?

In my book, I define the TRINITY ABSOLUTE as a Systematic Unity reflected in Religions, demonstrated in Science, echoed in Psychology, and composed of the Three Absolutes of Creation:

1. The Deity Absolute Primogenitor – represented in religions by Allah, Abba or Father, as Jesus called him; Brahma, and others.

2. The Universe or “Universal” Absolute Supreme Being or Oversoul – represented in history by Jesus, Muhammad, Gandhi, and others.

3. The Unconditioned Absolute Spirit of All That Is – the ultimate Destiny Consummator, who is expected to be Allah/Abba/Brahma glorified.

This definition is refreshing because the Trinity is discussed in terms unencumbered by specifically Christian dogma. Nevertheless, it is edifying because it ties in so well with the Holy Trinity expression of One God, while blowing the doors off orthodoxy.

I argue that the Supreme Being will probably be Jesus reincarnated in his return to earth as Christ, heading a supreme gestalt of the consciousness of all humankind.

If you go to my website, I suggest you click on the Preview pdf-download feature, and print it out if you have to, but read it through (only 19 pages) as quickly as you can without thinking about it too much at first. As the meaning and significance sinks in, the whole broad picture should snap into focus, and as I say at the beginning of the website, "You'll kick yourself for not having seen it sooner."

I understand that it is orthodox doctrine that the persons of the Trinity are unified in spirit, universal in reason (mind), but threefold in personality. As the Chinese would say: "Same, same, but different." This reminds me of Plato, who called the Trinity: same (one), other (many), and essence (all).

The one "spirit of Trinity" is the spirit of God, which of course is also the spirit of the Son, and their same spirit is glorified in that person which is their consummation - the Spirit of All That Is. In a sense, maybe we could say that the spirit of Trinity is the same, other, and essential spirit of God thrice-glorified. Don't you agree that a spark of this same spirit indwells all humankind?

I believe that the persons of the Trinity are all of one will by mutual agreement, which has a danger (as the Quran points out), in that they each retains that prime personality prerogative - authonomous freewill - which constitutes them as persons, but which (at least potentially) might cause trouble.

Theoretically, they could each "take their portions of the kingdom and go their own ways," but they don't because among other dire consequences, such a distintegration would be catastrophic to the metaphysical coherence of heaven, earth, and all that is. Nevertheless, they do have different personalities, and there are obviously distinctive characteristics of freewill personal dignity, which the persons of the Trinity may exhibit, within the limits of necessary Trinity unity, and their metaphysical roles in it.

No matter how overbearing, or cantankerous, or vague the personal characters may sometimes seem to be, in the worst case, the eternal metaphysical need for their systematic unity of coherence in the Trinity Absolute still constitutes Trinity as the only adequate vehicle humans have discovered so far, which might form a basis for something, anything, and everything - without which there would be nothing.

There is also an exciting potential of variable relationship, in the circumincession or perichoresis (procession or dance) of the absolute persons of the Trinity Absolute. Believe it or not, this giddy vision of multi-dimensional consciousness, in an almost kaleidoscopic merry-go-round of joyous movement, creating an "overplus" of the divine energies characteristic of the persons of the Trinity (particularly justice, love, and mercy), is well-supported by Christian doctrine (Augustine and Aquinas).

This adds a lightness of being to the creation (which it would otherwise lack), bringing it alive through the co-creative activity of the three absolute persons consubstantial in the Trinity Absolute; and frees the Deity Absolute Father from the aweful fetters of his supposed "original" lonely existential absolute majesty and sovereignty.

Indeed, there may have been a dreamtime of the Father, in which his goals and their implications in all their goodness were known, but the means to produce them were not.

This seems to have been the "lesson that could not be taught," which if God had not resolved (in the Trinity), he would have gone mad, and we would have been trapped in a nightmare-like dream.

But we are not trapped in a dream. Reality is all too material these days. So God must have thought and pondered on the Trinity, until at a certain moment about 14 billion years ago, he "saw" that it was good, and instantly it popped into material existence, and has apparently been expanding ever since. Trinity would seem to be the basis of a "theory of everything" - what Stephen Hawkings called "an idea so compelling that it brings about its own existence" - the one inevitability.

Sorry to just throw all this at you in a "stream of consciousness," but what do you think?

Samuel Stuart Maynes
www.trinityabsolute.com