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1. RSSB was set up way back in 1890 by Sant Jaimal Singh Maharaj (1884-1903) and since then it is not beyond any doubt that all the five GURUS of RSSB were born in SIKH families in Punjab. Then how and why RSSB could be treated as different from SIKHISM when all the GURUS were brought up in SIKH culture?

2. Why RSSB GURUS could not evolve any BANI of their own and they continue to rely and cite extracts of GURU GRANTH SAHIB or that of other saints, more so when each of them claims to be a GURU and GOD in living form?
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susingh
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1. What has been the criteria for nominating a GURU to be GIHF (GOD IN HUMANFORM) in RSSB and why any person other than a SIKH was not nominated as RSSB GURU since 1890 till date? The Great Master BABA Sawan Singh appointed Sardar Bahadur Jagat Singh as his spiritual successor at Beas in 1948, when his other disciples formed separate spiritual missions due to obvious reasons, who include Sant Kirpal Singh, Baba Somnath, Pritam Das, Shah Mastana Ji and Ishwar Puri as is revealed on the website, “http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baba_Sawan_Singh”

2. History got repeated in 1990/1991 when the present GURU Gurinder Singh Dhilon, the nephew of Maharaj Charan Singh was picked up from Spain for his nomination as RSSB GURU, where he was reported to be living as a clean shaven Sikh and is leading a lavish life by affording to travel in his personal jet plane with personal security guards.
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CKb2
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Yes!Even SIKHS history is also getting repeated if any one knows that five out of ten SIKH nominated GURUS were sons of SIKH GURUS as per details available on website,"http://sikhism.about.com/od/tengurus/tp/Ten-Gurus-Timeline.htm" and detailed below:-



1. Fifth Guru Arjun Dev (Arjan Dev) S/O Guru Raam das became GURU at the age of 18 years.

2. Sixth Guru Har Govind S/O Guru Arjun Dev became GURU at the age of below 11 years.

3. Eighth Guru Har Krishan S/O Guru Har Rai became GURU at the age of 5 years whose Martyred date was even even below 8 years on March 30, 1664.

4. Ninth Guru Teg Bahadar S/O Guru Har Govind became GURU at the age of 43 years ( He was nominated as SIKH GURU after a gap of more than four months of Martyred date of eighth guru on March 30, 1664. (From March 30 1664 to August 11, 1664)

5. Tenth GURU Guru Gobind Singh S/O Guru Teg Bahadar at the age of below 9 years who created the order of Khalsa. Sacrificed father, mother, sons and his own life to protect Sikhs from forced conversion to Islam. Completed the Granth bestowing upon it title of everlasting Guru.
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@0027::
"1. RSSB was set up way back in 1890 by Sant Jaimal Singh Maharaj (1884-1903) and since then it is not beyond any doubt that all the five GURUS of RSSB were born in SIKH families in Punjab. Then how and why RSSB could be treated as different from SIKHISM when all the GURUS were brought up in SIKH culture? "

The philosophy of salvation transcends the boundaries of caste, religion,culture and nationality. Do you know that First Sikh guru "Guru Nanak Dev" was a hindu ? He started this Sikhism faith so that there would be no distinction between hindu and muslims at that time.
The guru is beyond any religion.His system is not a religion, yet it leads to the most complete religious experience, and the most happy. He is absolutely universal in all his teachings.
Moreover i don't think RSSB could be treated as different from Sikhism. The teaching is the same.

"2. Why RSSB GURUS could not evolve any BANI of their own and they continue to rely and cite extracts of GURU GRANTH SAHIB or that of other saints, more so when each of them claims to be a GURU and GOD in living form?"

Guru granth sahib has teachings of perfect masters and they have no copyright. Even it has incorporated Kabir's bani in it.
See here, http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Bhagat_Kabir
and read the last section.
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0027
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Yes! The Sikh faith began around 1500 CE, when Guru Nanak (A Hindu by birth)began teaching a faith that was quite distinct from Hinduism and Islam.

Sikhism was well established by the time of Guru Arjan, the fifth Guru.

Guru Arjan completed the establishment of Amritsar as the capital of the Sikh world, and compiled the first authorised book of Sikh scripture, the Adi Granth.

But when RSSB is not different from Sikhism, then why there have been so many recent disputes arising out of demolishing a GURUDWARA by acts of RSSB in PUNJAB?

Does any SIKH agree to this view or vice a versa that RSSB and Sikhism are not different despite a green truth that all RSSB GURUS belonged to Sikh families.

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resonable
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Please do the research before asking questions

its just politics of few sikh people


see this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRDXN3o1jSk
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0027
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Yes! It is enough! Let these views be evalued by other readers now, because:-

Taaruf rog ho jae to usko bhoolna behtar , Taaluk bojh ban jai to usko todna achha !

Voh afsaana jise anjaam tak lana na ho mumkin use ek khoob soorat mod de kar todna achha !!

Chalo ek baar phir se ajnabi ban jaen hum dono!

Even if one is not a Sikh or is a MUSLIM or a RSSB follower of one's grand parent age or even younger than 23 year in age.

UMAR BHAR GHALIB YAHI BHOOL KARTA RAHA, DHOOL CHEHRE PAR THEE VOH AINAA SAAF KARTA RAHA!
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starspeed
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Rumors => Started by haters, spread by fools and accepted by idiots.
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susingh
Replied to:  Rumors => Started by haters, spread by fools and accepted by...
What does the use of words like, “haters, fools and idiots” mean and for whom have they been used in this forum? Does anyone know as if Mr. A gives something to Mr. B and Mr. B does not bother to consider such an offer, What would be the fate of what Mr. A wanted to give to Mr. B?

There does not appear to be any requirement or logic in use of such words with a request to avoid such a situation either by not responding to the topic or share one’s views with little constrains and tolerance because difference of opinion (vide or narrow)is bound to be there in any and every field of discussion. One can be sure of time only if he looks time in one watch but not so if one looks time in two or more watches.

In the instant case who has started any rumor or who spread and who accepted it?
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